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VincentHuynh 
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 Topic: Top layers of bladesPosted: 10/14/2007 at 3:22am |
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There are a few types of top layer for blades, as I know there is hinoki and some other types. how would the top layer affect game play and other benefits of them? |
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theman
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 4:12am |
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well the thinner the top ply, the more evident the inner layer affects play .
my t-2 top layer of hinoki soooo thin, the carbon can be felt and the power hungry blade kicks in. BOOM BOOM |
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PingPangQiu
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 5:08am |
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whats the use of the top ply?
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theman
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 5:38am |
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its against ittf rules to have materials other than wood on the top/outerply.
thats y kreanga carbon was banned, the coating completely covered the wood, instead u had aslick feel, instead of feeling the grain and seeing the wood. i think thats y companies make the outerply very very thin to get the maximum effect of carbon /arylate or any other non wood substance which may increase control.power etc |
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silvalis
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 6:00am |
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you know, that rule has been in that technical leaflet since at least 2005...
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PingPangQiu
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 6:05am |
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what would the amount of plies do to a blade? 3+2, 5+2, 7+6? more speed? more control?
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theman
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 6:09am |
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more plies more speed i guess, more woods = more stiffness?
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theman
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 6:10am |
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different woods differnet effects, im not an expert in the field of woods, but i beleive balsa is good control? i had a persson impulse thats y, and it was good feedback
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 7:33am |
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Softer woods usually equals softer feel and are really good for looping, like balsa and i believe limba is softer as well. I think more europeans use balsa or limba while the harder types of wood blades have a harder feel to them and are good for driving the ball; these types seem to go well with the chinese style of play and equipment they use.
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sadius
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Posted: 10/14/2007 at 12:10pm |
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Top 2 layer of the blade (FH an BH) are very important to the blade. If they used the hard and fast top layer wood. The blade will be a fast blade and hard feel. If it is soft and fast layer will give you a fast blade and medium or softer feel.
The top layer never effecting the game. Yours TT skill is effecting a game. It only effect the blade it seft like: fast blade (OFF+), medium fast blade(ALROUND) or slow blade(DEF). And depend by your playing style then you could choose the blade that fitted with you skill.
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theman
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Posted: 10/15/2007 at 3:52am |
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off+ man no dwell time for those off the table sidespin loops
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UlmoGerman
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Posted: 10/15/2007 at 5:03am |
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Soft wood as Toplayer is good for loop an a hard wood is god for conter and smash (push). I is not so easy to seperat the toplayer from the core! I make Blades by my owne, you can see them: http://www.ulmo-blades.deUli |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 at 8:40am |
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those r some nice blades man, good job!
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UlmoGerman
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Posted: 10/15/2007 at 11:23am |
I am interested in one of your blades (Seven). Is the texture of the wood the same as in the website (medium/dark wood with the lines of the wood showing?). I want this to be a present for a very good friend and I want to get a blade for him that he cannot buy anywhere else and that looks very different than the regular wooden blades in the market. I also need more info on this blade (speed, control etc) as unfortunately I cannot understand German. My friend is using inverted rubber for the forehand and medium pips for backhand if this helps. Finally I would need to receive this through courrier (Parcelforce, UPS etc) as Royal Mail is on strike (again!). By the way I live in Oxford, UK. Cheers, Michael |
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Posted: 10/16/2007 at 12:22am |
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Black Balsa 3.0 fh/tenergy 05 1.9 388d ox
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Posted: 10/16/2007 at 12:47am |
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Common top veneer: Koto,Limba,Hinoki,Aningre
Usually, top veneer will be the hardest of all veneers in one blade, sometimes the 2nd veneer hardest. It will protect the inners and support the whole blade. Same thickness, the more harder top veneer, the more speed, more softer than more control. For speed and control balance, the manufacture will take all factors into account, kind of veneer, thickness, gluing technics, size and etc. Now, Koto and limba are most rated top vaneer, despite of manufacture technics and gluing, koto little harder than limba. |
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theman
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Posted: 10/16/2007 at 3:40am |
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wow good info fishu
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