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Review Arylate Fiber - keyshot, spark, passion |
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zaizarul
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Posted: 11/18/2007 at 8:32pm |
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Hi all to all user
i need a suggestion/review from user that have use/try arylate fiber in keyshot, timo boll spark, maze passion i'm currently use primorac allwood -off......never try the arylate fiber blade....so need a suggestion/review before buy... thank |
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llamatt
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arylate makes blades very fast
maze passion and spark are same speed, keyshot is faster they are all faster than your primorac |
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zaizarul
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how about the sweet spot or feeling? are more bigger effect when using arylate fiber?....
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JimT
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C'mon, guys - arylate is for soft feel... that's why Carbon Arylate composite baldes are so popular - Carbon gives them extra pop and speed, Arylate allows them to keep them soft or medium feel so that you can successfully block with them or catch the ball in midair and more or less softly and controllably return it to the opponent's half.
I wouldn''t go for wood-arylate combo unless you are a defender, or your wood is pretty hard.
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JimT
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Again: arylate softens the touch so usually it cannot enlarge the sweet spot. Carbon stiffens the blade so the sweet spot grows a bit...
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llamatt
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carbon also makes blades faster than arylate
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zaizarul
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anyone had try this 3 blade?
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JimT
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which blade is that?
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bull_harrier
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I thought the Maze Passion had fiberglass fibres in it?
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zaizarul
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which one blade that u had try.....any blade....just review it.....
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bull_harrier
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Well I have used the Maze and TBS. Both are quality blades. The Maze has a little harder feel but is a very well balanced blade. The Maze is great for power looping and driving and the ball has a low throw angle when it comes off the blade after you strike it.
The TBS is softer in feel and is great for looping and using a wide variety of spins. The short game is also better with the TBS. The ball has a higher arc/angle after you strike it with the TBS. They are both very good blades, if you are chosing between those two you would really have to go with your preference on feel and how much you vary your spins.
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alfie
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I don't really agree with that I feel arylate give more speed and bounce to blades= less feeling.
I also think a guy called Timo Boll is the reason they are so popular but we all can't play like him I had more control out of an SC than when I had a TBS and the blades seemed about the same speed.
I tried a TBS as well as a KLHS and both were great for offensive play but short game and any passive strokes I feel they lack touch more so than straight carbon
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bull_harrier
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I think the arylate gives more feel than just regular carbon. The Arylate makes the feeling of the blade more soft than regular carbon.
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alfie
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the soft or hard feeling of a blade is very dependant on the top ply
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Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+
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bull_harrier
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but the top ply isn't the only factor |
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JimT
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This seems a bit strange seeing as how you play Control ALL+ - this is even a less offensive blade than TBS, am I correct? Also about control: that really, really depends on the rubbers you are using... with some rubbers control can slip even if the blade is good. For instance, I was using MilkyWay Venus on the same blade (TBS) as DHS H3, and for some reason Venus was noticeably worse although it is not supposed to be... - so sh*t happens, you know... I played straight carbon a few times and it is a real art - but if you find the exactly right rubbers then it is quite possible that it gives more feeling/control than TBS or Xiom ALL+ when equipped with slightly wrong or just wrong type of rubbers, I am sure that you will agree with me on that... |
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alfie
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agree with this ( with some rubbers control can slip even if the blade is good)
I just think arylate is a bouncier material than carbon especially on slow strokes,straight carbon I think is just as fast on power shots but has more give than arylate i.e arylate repels energy more than carbon
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Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+
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MildSeven
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I think the effect of carbon on speed is overblown. All I think carbon does is dampen the vibration on hard strokes, making carbon blades feel better on power shots but worse on soft ones. Arylate is similar as another composite fiber but the effect is not as extreme for Arylate. My original Keyshot feels right the in middle between an all-wood and an all carbon.
I think Keyshot/Keyshot Light is worth a try for the topic starter. This is just my own perception from having used Carbon, Arylate Carbon, Arylate, and straight wood. |
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Curly
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what about COFFERLAIT ?
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I play with the Dynasty Super Carbon a very stiff blade.But to keep the touch you put a slow rubber like 729 FX-EL on it so you get lots of control and speed.
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dauntless
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I have a Dawei Wavestone that is a very nice playing blade. Cole has a good explanation of this blade on his site and several forums have great reviews of this blade.
It is A/C blade but is pretty fast to me with enormous sweetspot/good feeling. My short game actually improved with this blade but it was just too fast for me. For someone with really good technique and who wants a speed boost with control, this is nice blade -- maybe too fast straight from PRIMORAC OFF- but it could work with 2.0 rubbers with slower speed greater control rating. Plus this blade is cheaper than BTY blades with A/C
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1. BTY Primorac, Nittaku H3N, T64 2. BTY Primorac, H3N, Mendo MP Feedback
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zaizarul
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i'm already had made decission.... buy timo boll spark at iruiru.com(nice service).....
used a month.....
before this i'm using primorac off--, timo boll spark are little bit faster then my primorac.....nice control.....more spin when loop
now i'm using
blade - timo boll spark
FH - dawei super power 2008
BH - dawei inspirit
p/s one thing that i'm not satistfied with this timo boll spark only for the handle.....ST handle but small......for spin/smash/loop this blade are great
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Peter C
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Zaizarui
If you consider the handle is too small, you could get a wrap to put on the handle and that will probably make it more to your liking. Arylate Carbon blades are popular because they are a very good option for a lot of players. You get less vibration than a wood blade and a bigger sweetspot. They are usually softer than Carbon blades and therefore better at generating spin. The Carbon layer comes into it's own when hitting the ball hard and enlarging the sweetspot. Arylate tends to make the blade softer than a straight carbon blade and therefore provide more dwell time, which helps you put more spin on the ball. I agree with the comment that it can be harder to master the short game with Arylate Carbons, especially if you use low throw rubbers. They are better suited to medium and medium high throw rubbers. If you put a low throw rubber like Venus on a TBS, then you will have a harder time playing the short game, because you have a smaller margin of error, which can lead to more net cords and shots in the net. Medium and high throw rubbers like Sriver, H3 work better on these blades because they clear the net that bit higher. JimT made the point about Venus not playing well on a TBS, whereas H3 worked well. The answer to that one is Venus is a low throw rubber and not suited to the blade, whereas H3 has a high throw and therefore a good match for the blade. In my experience Venus works well on wooden blades, which have a higher throw than Arylate Carbons like the TBS, Michael Maze. |
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