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T h e N A M
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Posted: 12/05/2007 at 7:59pm |
some one please compare...
dhs hurricane 3 VS juic 999 series VS yasaka new era...
according to paddlepalace chart,
juic 999 series has more speed, spin, and control..
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ksu06
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999 is faster, but H3 is definitely more spinny. I feel the 999 has very good initial quality, but sort of dies out after not too long (keep in mind I don't speed glue or anything so I'm not sure if that changes things). In terms of control, I felt the 999 was better than H3 for everything except looping.
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Skippy
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I would say 999 is faster, and spinnier (because of softer topsheet) than H3, but it doesn't have more control. ksu is right in that the H3 will hold up longer (far longer). Chinese rubbers are typically far more durable. New Era I know nothing about. Also the 999 weighs far less.
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ksu06
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Yes, yes, the 999 is definitely a lot lighter than h3 ... I remember going from h2 (which is similar in weight to h3) to 999 elite ultima a year ago and it was a huge difference in terms of feeling. I recall saving a lot more shots that I could not with the h2 simply because I could move the paddle a bit faster (unless I was imagining things!). Either way, though, unless you get the provincial h3, then neither rubber is really that great.
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pongp
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What's the difference between juic 999 and globe 999?
I know that globe 999 is quite a heavy rubber...but plays very nice, great allround rubber.
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wit453
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I used globe 999 japanese sponge it's ok.
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cole_ely
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The difference between the two rubbers is going to have more to do with the sponges that are under them than the topsheets themselves.
I've had the dhs topsheets a couple of times now, and they seem more like the regular palio Cj8000 topsheets than they do the stock h3. They are thinner and softer. But with all of these topsheets...cream, 999, cj8000, h3...the sponge you put under them will make a lot more difference than the topsheets themselves do. You can buy an h3 topsheet and a #20 orange sponge and put them together and get something very different from the stock h3. The main dif between the regular 999 and the elite juic version is the thickness. The juic elite top is very very thin. It compares more to my palio CjC topsheet than it does to regular 999. Plus it's a lot nicer looking. |
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Skippy
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Anybody have anything about the New Era?
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tommyzai
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If the sheets are over $16 I cross them off my list. The price of some of the Euro/Jap rubbers have joined the price of gas . . . unreasonable!!! I heard the Green Energy is now over $45. That's ridiculous!
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have you actually tried... any tensor rubbers...?
like.. omega, nimbus, plasma, or narucross ex...?
i actually liked them very much...
but of course.. those rubbers would cost over $80 for both side....
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iakovka
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I played two-three last weeks with Yasaka New Era TENSOR Allround Type and Yasaka New Era TENSOR Balance Type with China sponge. Not bad feeling, very good spin, allround speed. though there is no any tensor feeling on them(just name). They are not so tacky as H3 or skyline but they also keep the ball for a pretty long time on the topsheet. |
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haggisv
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I don't think these are the genuine yasaka new era rubbers... they look like they came from the Palio factory...
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I was told the only REAL new era is the one with Cartoon cover on it. All others come from Palio factory which basically means it's counterfeit.
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haggisv
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Yes that is exactly what I think...
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iakovka
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I dont think so. They are just different - for China and for Europ(Japan). So the Marketing point is really different. I play with chinees version now
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They come with the different sponges. Chinees version not really tenstor. But the Japanees - does.
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haggisv
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If you look closely at the sponge and the marking on there, it will look very familiar if you've ever seen a Palio rubber. I've tried a few in the past, and although some played quite nice, they were differerent the next time I got one, and the quality was definitely not like the other Yasaka rubbers...
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iakovka
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Sure they are different quality. (when I say quality I mean evrything including cartoon picture, the quality of the paper inside and also accuracy of cutted New sheet, the the pocket it come with. But the topsheet is the same in both. (sponge different))
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Chopper88
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HI Haggisv, I had order H3 from you before, do you have some with thicker blue sponge? the ones I order was 2.2mm but looks like 2.0
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PingPangQiu
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they should be the right measurements
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haggisv
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Yes they were all ordered and are marked 2.2mm
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iakovka
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Can anyone explain me why H3 is so heavy?
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iakovka
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And by the way - If you compare it to NEW Era I have - the topsheet of H3 is not more tacky then N Era. Though spins of H3 more powerful, but only strong spins.
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asr1990
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H3 is so heavy because the sponge is so hard and dense |
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JRSDallas
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Someone should bite the bullet and try XuShaoFa 999 LSZ Tornado and post a comment.
Its as spinny as H3 and its a tensioned sponge with great control.
I was a dedicated H3 user and after hitting with LSZ Tornado I instantly
could tell that it was a better choice.
If you can get a hold of LSZ Tornado II its even better but both are excellent.
So many people choose H3 for the spin and control but they find it hard to get speed even when using a lot of speed glue. I also found that H3 was pretty sensitive to racket angle when mixing your stroke between a counter and a loop.
I have used it with moderate and even gobs of Tibar CTE and I am getting great spin and power. When you get to a lot of CTE, you get gobs of sound and even softer feel (since you've expanded so much of the sponge).
Someone just try the XuShaoFa 999 LSZ Tornado in 2.2 mm and compare it to the above. I would bet that there are other excellent little known rubbers out there also.
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