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    Posted: 02/17/2008 at 9:18pm

I'm pretty proud of where my table tennis game is currently. 

They only time I ever lose REALLY badle by someone is when they have a serve that I can't attack..  Sometimes I just get serves where I can't properly judge the ammount of backspin, and either loop them off the table or into the net. 
 
Any advice for helping me learn to attack serves, other than just forcing myself to attack them until I learn.
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I like to attack a lot of serves because i'm good at flipping.  But I tend to try and flip too much and sometimes my short game suffers because of it, pushing i'm referring to.  A lot of times i have to take a step away from the flipping all the time and just work on the pushing, irreguardless of losing points.  That helps me a lot. This all sounded a lot more organized and just better in my head :P.  Also be patient and don't go right at the serve all the time, let some of the spin come off of the ball.

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If you want to practice judgement, get some older generation players to serve with their arm completely blocking the ball.

I think you're lucky not have met some Chinese players that puts so much backspin on the ball that they don't bother hiding their services, and it's always a long ball.

But truth be told, not every guy you play will produce provincial team quality serves.
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Yes, I actually do have a chinese friend who is extremely good, #1 at his school in Taiwan, and he is teaching me how to return heavy backspin and sidespin serves.
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remeber this, heavy backspin from the other player when the ball on your side of the table, it becomes topspin. 
 
all that you have to do is lift/flip the ball back.  for long to the edge heavy back spin with some side spin,  have your paddle in the right angle, slightly lift the ball back with its own spin.  the ball comes back to other player with sooo much backspins, he can't really attack it.
 
 
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Find a partner who has good deceptive serves, and hope they'll let you analyze their serves (ie: show you the different variations, and how the serve motions differ), of course only a person who doesn't mind you catching up to them would agree to this.

Serve is the part of the game that I analyze most. A lot of the time watching pro matches I can tell whether the serve was side-underspin or side-topspin (when the server's back is facing the camera) then the other player pops it up and gets killed. Of course it's easier to tell from the back than from the front, otherwise I'd be saying I can read serves better than the pros.

If you learn the serve variations yourself, you'll be able to know what to look for in a side-topspin serve or side-underspin serve (eventually).

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it is easier to say and to look than to play. the key to this is play a lot of games with different people.
 
I can read most of the serves, but i can't return all of them.
 
Ok,  after you watch other players wrist movement, watch the ball.. what to watch??
 
#1.  the first bonce of the ball. if the first bonce of the ball in close to the net, then in most case it will be a short ball.
 
#2. if the ball start with a faster before the net, and slow down once it get over the net, then is the backspin.
 
#3. sidespin is pretty easier to look most of time.  the question is whether the ball has the side topspin or side backspin. use #2 can help you judge that.  if the speed of the ball is about the same before the net and after the net,  then is a pretty pure sidespin.
 
theories are pretty simple, but in the real game, every thing happen so quick, you really don't have much time to think, and to catch the ball off the bonce, you must be quick!!
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