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short game - returning spinny balls short |
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chronos
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Posted: 03/01/2008 at 9:06am |
Been working on my short game and would appreciate some tips:
A short ball with light to no spin is easy to return short with more spin, putting the other guy in a worse situation. But for the life of me, I can't keep balls with heavy underspin or sidespin short*. I can fast push a short heavy underspin ball - take the ball on the rise / top of bounce, driving through the ball with an open racket. Ball goes to the edge (long). I can put heavy spin on a heavy underspin ball - take the ball on the descent, brush underneath loading up the underspin. Brush sideways to add side spin. These also go long, more slowly. But a short (just over the net) and spinny (enough to bring the ball back into the net) ball, I can't find a way to keep it short on the other side, for me its down to the above - either turn that spin into speed on a fast push, or spin of my own on a spinnier push of my own. For me at least, flipping really close to the net, with a spinny ball, is quite hard unless the ball is high, a high spinny ball is of course dangerous for the other guy because the underspin becomes topspin on my own flip. So assume the ball is low (though flipping tips also appreciated). I've had enough of my own spinny by too high balls spanked back to learn my lesson - lower is better than spinner. If the ball is a little deeper, its attackable, just wondering about this particular case - too short / low to attack, and spinny. How possible is it to keep these balls short and low on the return - is a fast push or spinny push deep the main options? Thanks! * EDIT: For a short ball with a lot of sidespin, I guess it can be kept short by going with the spin instead of against it, giving the opponent back what he gave me. But with underspin "going with the spin" is gonna give him a topspin ball. |
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chronos
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Just had an idea - contact the ball outside the point of heaviest spin, aka closer to the axis of rotation. Brush underneath as close to that axis as possible, putting the ball short on the point reflected via the middle of the table, if that makes sense. Should be possible?
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Hookshot
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Use Seemiller grip with Dr Evil OX on the back.
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asr1990
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get right under the ball pushing forward, not to hard
kind of a stabbing motion
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mizutani jun
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celeronx
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Just off the bounce dude..
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asr1990
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yep off the bounce
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mizutani jun
tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
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Indonesia5000
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try doin the same serve to your opp. and watch what he does
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