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    Posted: 05/05/2008 at 1:57pm
Hi guys. For those of us who like to play with chinese rubbers: what can we do after the glue/tuners ban? Theres plenty of glue effect rubbers  from butterfly, andro, joola etc... but as far as I know no chinese company has made a move yet (DHS, Friendship...) I would like to stop gluing as soon as possible. Is there going to be any substitute for, lets say H3 or other chinese style rubber? I want to know for two reasons, its what i play best with, and don't want to spend 50$ or more on each rubber. Thanks a lot.
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Using the same topsheet with a built-in glue effect sponge is what bumping into my head.
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it looks like palio has some new rubbers with built in glue effect.they are listed on www.eacheng.net hadou biotech rubber,and  believe hk1997 biotech
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how about the 729 highpoint or the palio macro pro? Anyone tried them?

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Try your fav topsheet on the quattro sponge, you can get it in many thicknesses and softnesses from cole
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Originally posted by Ginko Tai Kim Ginko Tai Kim wrote:

how about the 729 highpoint or the palio macro pro? Anyone tried them?
 
Palio Macro pro is just like andro relovution fire or tango. It is german tension but i have heard the new version of macro pro is using the Nittaku morristo sponge. Don't know if it is true!!! Shocked 
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  xu shaofa has unveiled some good rubbers with inbuilt glue speed designed to be used after the glue ban 
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What XuShaoFa rubbers were unveiled and can you post information?
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Thanks. I really want to try Inspirit quattro, but i didn't know you can get the quattro sponge and put it under any topsheet. Does it really have speed glue feel? That would be cool. I was thinking if DHS or Friendship would release "tuned" versions of their rubbers like butterfly is doing. That Xuxaofa rubbers sound interesting, where can i get some info?
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'Considering the sealed package I think biotech is something like CO2 tuning.
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Originally posted by JRSDallas JRSDallas wrote:

What XuShaoFa rubbers were unveiled and can you post information?
 
i m waitin for a friend to give me more info, he ll get the rubbers
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The Friendship 729 Higher Transcend is a tension rubber
Also I heard the LKT torrent has a built in speed effect.
You will have to wait a while but Friendship will bring out more and stable built in glue effect rubbers.
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Transcend sponge is a tension sponge and springier than traditional Chinese sponge, but it is not a glue effect rubber.  I used transcend and it needs speed glue if you are a speed gluer.
 
XuShaoFa has LSZ and LSZ II which are also tensioned sponge Chinese rubbers.  I like this sponge better than the 729 Transcend sponge but I also speed glue these.   LSZ II is my current rubber and I like it a lot but I tune it.  
 
I am extremely interested in bbkon's comments about a possible new XuShaoFa with built-in speed glue feel.  
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There is two version  macro pro and ,macro normal macro pro sponge is a bit hard and the macro normal  is soft .But the pro version will be better .
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yeah, but man, aren't those rubbers like $30?
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Originally posted by JRSDallas JRSDallas wrote:

Transcend sponge is a tension sponge and springier than traditional Chinese sponge, but it is not a glue effect rubber.  I used transcend and it needs speed glue if you are a speed gluer.
 
XuShaoFa has LSZ and LSZ II which are also tensioned sponge Chinese rubbers.  I like this sponge better than the 729 Transcend sponge but I also speed glue these.   LSZ II is my current rubber and I like it a lot but I tune it.  
 
I am extremely interested in bbkon's comments about a possible new XuShaoFa with built-in speed glue feel.  
 
 i m waiting for my friend to chat online, he buys from an official xushaofa store
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I bought a pair of Xu Shao Fa LSZ II based on JRDallas reviews.
Before gluing them on the blade I put a few layers of speed glue and leave them for a day to shrink back to the original size.
The glue effect lasted for about a week, I mean they were soft and looping against backspin was easy. The crack sound when glued is loud, too loud for my taste.
The sponge used is manufactured by GP, just like Cole said in another thread. Not sure if is the same with the one that eacheng is selling it. The black sheet, even is marked with a hardness bigger than the red one, is softer than the red sheet.
I would say that are pretty good rubbers for the money, I'll see how long they last.
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