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    Posted: 06/15/2008 at 11:03pm
I have a question for you. do you ever play in sand paper blade and if so how fine should be the sanding paper?
 
Here's mine i make it today. More people use this for game betting like the harbat.
 
 
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Admittedly, this is the first time I ever heard of such a bat. As to your question, depends on how smooth you want the ball to end up with.LOL
 
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There used to be alot of sandpaper blades in the 50s. They do sand the ball down and they don't make much spin.
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Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

There used to be alot of sandpaper blades in the 50s. They do sand the ball down and they don't make much spin.
 
hookshot, I was only joking there. Hope you are not pulling my legConfused
 
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Playing with sand paper blade is an art. And a good exercise without too much stress on your muscles and less pain. One good tool to use for developing and correcting your form .  Need to use very cheap ball coz' they easily break. Everytime you hit the ball grinds downLOL. but you can go for a very long rally to earn a point.
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Hi Fatt,
     No, I am not pulling your leg or jerking your chain. LOL
     The sandpaper bats used to come in four blade sets. When you bought a cheap table, they would sometimes throw in a set of bats.
     At the Senior Games, one old guy came with his fav bat, yepp, sandpaper. I didn't have the heart to tell him he couldn't use it.
     @Gatz, The sandpaper you used looks very close to the originals. Who do you find that still uses those? Have you ever tried a regular hardbat?
The sandpaper bats are not legal for hardbat competition. The sound they make is very distintive.
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Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

The sound they make is very distintive.
 
I can imagine it would probably sound like fingernails scrawling across a blackboardDead
 
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     The rallys could be long because all the bats I have seen were very slow and made little spin. You will not learn much about modern strokes with these bats.
     Some of the best hardbat players in the world could not make the change to sponge when it came out because the strokes are so different.
     There are some very good hardbat players that even play in sponge events. People have trouble playing them because of the fact hardbats ignore most of the spin.
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Gatz,
     You would probably like the clipboard event. Smile
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I assume the ball will consume very fast due to the abrasion.
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You should use black sandpaper and red on the other side.
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It complies with the new friction rules that were recently introduced by the ittf.

How can it pass the colour test.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ginko Tai Kim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/16/2008 at 9:33am
well i back up hookshot on this one, i have come across ppl whe used sand paper, but mainly c pen holders. Didnt bother me so much since thats when i started out and couldnt put much spin on the ball.

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@Addoy,
     Two color rule does not apply to hardbat. In fact, I don't think "any" rules apply to sandpaper. LOLSmile
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I would like one with 80 grit.......... the equivalent of gluing small stones to blade.  Actually, a gentleman recently started playing at the club and until recently used a sandpaper paddle for basement play.  After he went to another club first they made (convinced him to change) to a legal setup.  He is now playing with Dr. evil ox both sides.  He is certainly fun to play and is rather good with that setup.
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Dr Evil got its name for a reason! It is great rubber for hardbat and is very effective against inverted.
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 Lopue's Liha-Kahoy Invitational Tournament <---I know this is not approved by the ittf we call the sandpaper "liha". And in some asian country they have tournaments for this.
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There's also the NO Bat competition whereby players slap at the ball with their hand like handball! I entered one of these events in NYC. Inbetween matches I sanded down my palms.
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Try this,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHvb-O3XPE4&feature=related
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LOL that was amazing. especially the huge crowd that was watching hahaha
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guess what? i have an updated version of my sandpaper racketSmile
 
3m 220 fine grit
 
880 super fine grit
 
 
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At least it only cost me $3.99 to makeLOL. Am diverting my ejness thoughts for nowLOL
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If you look on the ITTF Museum website

http://www.ittf.com/museum/indextech2.html

there is a drop down box at the bottom of the page and one of the options is wood bats: sandpaper.

The sandpaper bat was in use until it was banned in 1959, as a result of the bat standardisation rules being introduced.

It's abrasive surface did wear out table tennis balls quicker.

The style of play to use hardbats effectively, be they short pips or sandpaper would take some getting used to.

When I tried hardbat, I had no problem with my backhand, but forehand was harder to get used to. You can forget playing euro style brush loops, which developed as a result of inverted sponge.
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