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    Posted: 06/18/2008 at 3:59pm
   Hi guys,
 
i am looking to try either of these rubbers,
 
which would you reccomend and why??
 
which is louder and spinnier?
 
which is faster?
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i thought you tried sonex jp already?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asr1990 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:06pm
yeh but only for a short period of time
and i would like to know the comparisons between each of these rubbers as i have not tried the Platin Soft
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anyone else???
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The Platin Soft is Spinnier, And Louder

The hardness is as follows:
Brand Rubber Thickness Reading 1 Ave
729 Faster Transcend 2.0mm 29
729 GeoSpin Tacky 2.0mm 31
729 Higher Transcend 2.0mm 40.9
Andro Impuls Speed 2.2mm 20
Andro Plasma Women 2.0mm 20
Andro Plasma 430 Maximum 25.5
Andro Roxon 450 2.0mm 29.2
Andro Roxon 500pro 2.0mm 32.1
Andro Roxon 500pro Maximum 34.2
Andro Plasma 470 Maximum 35.8
BTY Solcion 2.1mm 24
BTY Sriver G2 FX Maximum 29
BTY Bryce Fx 2.1mm 32
Dawei Inspirit Quattro UL 35 2.0mm 23.2
Dawei Inspirit 35 deg Maximum 24
Dawei Inspirit UL 35 deg 2.0mm 24.3
Dawei Inspirit Quattro 42 deg 2.0mm 35
Dawei Inspirit Quattro UL 40 2.0mm 37.6
Donic Desto F3 Big Slam Maximum 17.5
Donic Desto F3 Maximum 24
Donic Coppa JO Silver 2.0mm 24.2
Donic Sonnex JP Soft 2.0mm 24.2
Donic Platin Soft 2.0mm 24.7
Donic Sonex JP Gold 2.0mm 30.5
Donic Platin 2.0mm 33
Gambler Four Kings 2.0mm 22
Joola energy X-tra 2.0mm 21.2
Joola energy X-tra Maximum 29.7
Xiom Omega II Euro 2.0mm 23.6
Xiom Omega II 2.0mm 25.5
Xiom Yanus DF 1.5mm 26.4
Xiom Yanus DF 2.0mm 27.1
Yasaka Xtend HS 2.0mm 33.6
Yasaka Mark V 2.0mm 35

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What is "reading 1 ave" ? Is that your durometer figures ? If so, shall we read it from softer 20 to harder 40 ?
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thanks very much rob
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anyone else??
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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

What is "reading 1 ave" ? Is that your durometer figures ? If so, shall we read it from softer 20 to harder 40 ?

Sorry for the late reply, I normally try any reply ASAP for you JCDI. Wink

I take 5 readings across the sponge and Average them out.
(You wouldn't believe the differance between some of them)

The Higher the Number - The Harder the Sponge
The lower the Number - The Softer the Sponge
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so rob, have you tried both of these rubbers before and if so what do you think??

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Donic coppa platin soft has more control and  spinnier.

Also, Speed is pretty good.
Donic platin is little lighter than Coppa Gold.
 
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hi moristo just read your pm now, i will get back to you as soon as i make up my mind thanks alot
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Originally posted by pingpongrob pingpongrob wrote:

Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

What is "reading 1 ave" ? Is that your durometer figures ? If so, shall we read it from softer 20 to harder 40 ?

Sorry for the late reply, I normally try any reply ASAP for you JCDI. Wink

I take 5 readings across the sponge and Average them out.
(You wouldn't believe the differance between some of them)

The Higher the Number - The Harder the Sponge
The lower the Number - The Softer the Sponge
 
Does that also mesures the top sheet hardness ?
Reason why I'm asking is that I'm very much puzzled with these figures. I got platin soft 2.0 and sonex jp gold 2.0 sticked side by side on my sister blades acoustic and I feel sonex gold much softer than platin soft.
It is also louder.
For grippiness, I agree platin soft offers better top sheet quality. After 4 weeks, it looks like new . Sonex gold is in the desto kind. It looks old with no color, scrambled edges, but after 2 monthes it plays just like the first day.
Platin soft feels also a tad faster and powerfull to me when looping and driving. In the short game, they are both as controlable.
 
My club mates are also feeling the same when I let them try my blades. That's why I suspect the top-sheet hardness having a lot to do with the overall result.
It reminds me EGP vs F1. EGP was given 42 � and F1 45� by manufacturers and I've  felt F1 being softer. 
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Yes JCDI - you are so correct, Topsheet hardness and pimple spacing have a lot to do with the feel.

My next experiment will be to obtain Hardness of the top sheets.

To me the JP Sonex Gold was very similar to the new Desto, but the platin Soft and regular felt like it produced much more topspin.
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ASR,
 
I have a test sheet of 2mm Platin and 2mm Platin Soft that will be stuck to a Primorac Carbon this saturday morning for testing. They will be compared to F1, Coppa JO Silver and Xtend HS.
 
JP Gold seemed to be in the Coppa JO Siver mold when I tested it i.e. soft sponge, soft topsheet in black. Bit too soft for me and less feel than Silver. I am expecting both Platins to be firmer but hopefully not as firm as JO Gold.
 
Whilst players like D McBeath found JO Silver too soft (he was a traditonal Coppa plus booster player) I am told he is liking the Patin much more than previous tensors tried. Yasaka Pryde also getting some good feedback I believe and I am on the list to get a test sheet from Jarvis Sports over next week or so. Watch this space for thoughts.
 
Happy testing coming up in Brum this weekend.
 
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