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    Posted: 08/05/2008 at 1:45pm
Many players consider a 5-ply hinoki the best blade for short game spins and looping.

What is the BEST 5-ply Hinoki and WHY?

I can't afford (g/f will kill me) to buy a dozen of them to find a good one.
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me too, I would like to know how all hinoki 5 bty plays, any comments ....
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Actually I don't know of any, other than the Butterfly ones.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tommyzai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/05/2008 at 4:19pm
Darker seems to only make a 7-ply and a 5-ply with "power wood."
Butterfly . . . which one is their best?
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Originally posted by speaquinox speaquinox wrote:

Actually I don't know of any, other than the Butterfly ones.

DARKER ,DONIC,BUTTERFLY&JUIC have made the blades in 5pl 7pl and 9 pl using Hinoki just to name some.Darker has made  5 & 7 pl Hinoki blades for the years now.Here are some of the DARKER blades.
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bty hinoki shake speedy is very nice,

similar to a petr korbel with a little more speed and softer, the handle sucks, so very small, I use it with a grip

that's the only one I know
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Butterfly Joner Hinoki, and Butterfly Kiso Hinoki V
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Butterfly: Jonyer Hinoki, Kiso Hinoki V, Hinoki Shake 5 (chinese made).
I tried Jonyer 5 ply, thus i skip the other two 5 plies, I want to try the 7 ply (probably the Kiso Hinoki VII).

Jonyer is a good blade. Nice feel, gears, great looper.
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I found the 5 ply and 7 ply made from Avallo is very nice too. Both made from Hinoki wood. Chech this website: http://www.avalloavx.com/blade.htm
Look for J-power and J-Tech. Still tempting for J-Tech
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find a heavy bty jonyer, it's very good, i played with 70gr, 72gr, and 78gr, and the 78gr is the best
 
you should hurry not that many jonyer's around, i dont think they make them anymore, the only place where i saw them available was megaspin
 
i also ordered a 5p-2a from iru that should of arrived but because of stock problems on another item i have not received it yet, but the darker is probably faster, a lot
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The H.S. Cryzer is a pretty good blade too, soft and not too fast. Relatively cheap as well (like the rest).

EDIT: In case someone wonders, this blade can still be found in some places, like eacheng...
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Manyaku, how much different between 70g and 78g? Does it worth getting a second one? Mine is 70g. If it's better but not worth getting another one then i wouldnt bother looking for another one... Cause it's not easy to find one anymore. Thanks.
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the 78gr is easyer to smash with and drive through the ball, (because it was also thicker, wich made it not to feel so mushy), no vibrations, more stable, and a bit faster
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you should only get another one if you need it to be more stable and not so elastic when you drive through the ball
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I�ve have played Jonyer Hinoki during many years, and it has been my favourite blade.  It�s outstanding in term of feeling and control, but I reckon it will maybe be a little slow with the current glue ban. Now I�m going to try a Violin, but I swear you if I the new rule wouldnt appear I would surely continue with my racket.
 
I own 3 Jonyers, but all diferent, I also agreed that the best one is the first one I purchased and also the oldest and heavier(80 grs). It hasn�t the butterfly metallic seal either JTTA.
 
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A 5 ply hinoki is one blade I'd like to try.  I'm seriously thinking about picking up a AVX J-Tech.....good deal here.  
 
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