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Team_Vietnam
Beginner Joined: 09/27/2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 87 |
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Posted: 11/19/2008 at 8:30pm |
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Okay, my main problem during matches are serve returns. I need help.
So, when the serve is long, I can loop it, that part I am fine. I have about an 80-90% efficiency rate. When the serve is close to the net, I do a flip or walk to the side and loop it, I am also good here. Again, 80-90% efficiency. Now, my problem lies in serves that land mid-table that cannot be looped nor flipped. It is in the middle so I cannot walk to the side of the table either. What should I do, push it? Any offensive strokes I can do? Any suggestions on my serve returns are welcome. Thanks! |
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mcd0nald
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rather than playing offensive stroke, why not playing short return instead .....
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ffx-me
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if its underspin you gotta push but you can just smash it if its topspin
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varghesep
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It is better not to return serves with top spin except if it is long and a loose ball.
For short ball, push if it is under spin and chop on the side if it is top spin. Surely short and low.
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Swiff
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Learn to push back and just counterspin to an extreme angle. Push to an edge. Kind of difficult at first, but that's what I do. Usually that forces them for a weak push which I can loop
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dragon kid
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Chiquita Spin it!!!
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chu_bun
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Push and be ready to defense against third ball attack. The shorter and lower your push, the less damage your opponent can do to you. Nobody can hit offensive shot all the time.
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TT_Freak
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Place it short off the bounce.
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Hasham
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push it long low and spinny preferably to the backhand
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7plywood
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+1
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7plywood
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- 1 If the opponent does not have a consistent (BH) loop you can try it, otherwise not a good strategy.
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junbei
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I agree with the majority - pushing it short and spinny is the key, forcing them to push back and allowing for an offensive loop.
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theman
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lol, his wrist is made outta jelly! sometimes being on the offense all the time is too predictable, opponents may get used to your placement and speed. Yeah just push it so their opening loop [if they dont push it back] is manageable like the others have said. kong's the man |
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Hasham
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they usually dont |
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IAmI
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It definitelly IS an option. And it is massively used even in pro matches. I agree with Hasham. Short push or flip as mentioned above being some other options.
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Counterlooper
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depends on your style. For me (I loop everything!) I would either loop or push that ball. If it doesn't have much spin I would loop. If it has a lot of spin I would push.
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Team_Vietnam
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Thanks for all your replies everyone!
I was just down at my club (which happened to open after many months of being closed) and I played some other members. I pushed the short serves. My pushes were really low and close-by the net. That really helped my game, as I beat people the same level as the people I usually lose to in tournaments. (I'm sure I am of higher level, I have really bad serve returns lol) Thanks for the advice given from everyone. It's much appreciated.
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Team_Vietnam
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By the way, does anyone know why my forehand rubber (Sriver FX) dies after two or three matches? At the club, do I have to clean my rubber constantly? Or is it because my rubber is getting old and it dies quickly? (My coach gave me old used rubber to begin with: the rubber seems very old because it has slight rips near the edges) The backhand (Bryce FX) is working fine. The whole evening, it never died out. (It also came used, but it seemed much newer and fresher)
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Counterlooper
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that is possible. I use bryce fx on my forehand and scriver el on my backhand. I never had a problem yet. But I try out different blades and rubbers sometimes. Try different combos out and you might like one!
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Swiff
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Your rubber isn't dying, but the actual stickiness (not tackiness) of the rubber is decreasing as you play with it and it gets dusty or dirty. The feeling of tackiness or spin should be about the same, but feel different to the touch. Once you clean it, even with your breath it will start returning to original stickiness.
It's takes a while for the sponge to actually start dying. The rubber will lose speed and tackiness and overall liveness. And your topsheet will probably have a little color loss.
hope this helps.
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Counterlooper
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great explanation Swiffers! very well explained. thanks
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varghesep
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Dr.Swiffers .
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Counterlooper
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Swiffers could this person who answers every question about tt. lol.
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