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Mdman 
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Any of you guys used to play with Schlager and now plays with Amultart??? How does the Amultart feel?
I am going to switch over to Amultart because Schlager is too heavy I think. |
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Sallom89
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 1:36pm |
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hmmm I heard most Amultart CS are above 90g and mine is 95g when my seller personally weighed it, I don't know if that is considered light. It is a hard feel blade which is what I really liked for offensive play... I also recommend T05 with it if you are advanced, because it's too fast with high throw.
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:06pm |
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I don't own Schlager, but I have hit with it couple times. Comparing with my Amultart. Schlager has harder feel. Since Almutart has softer feel, people always think Amultart is slower, but actually not. Amultart has multiple gears, so you could flat hitting or soft touch nicely close to table.
Definitely Amultart is lighter than Schlager. Mine weights only 87grs with the good balance. I even feel it lighter than my Clipper (85grs)
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:12pm |
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My club friend plays with Amultart and he today broke him into pieces when he lost from me 3:0
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:24pm |
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If you like Schlager but switching only because you don't like the heavy weight then I suggest you get yourself smth like Galaxy T-2 or T-4 - they can be had at around 80-81 g. And they are pretty darm close to Btfy Schlager Carbon. T-4 is even better in my opinion and costs only 35 dollars.
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:35pm |
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No matter that Galaxy clone blades from most popular TT brands in the world, their blades dont play same as original blades. You cant make me believe that Galaxy and Butterfly use same quality furnir layers in their blades. Blade for 35 dollars is not same as Schlager for 90 dollars. I now that we pay some piece of price for brand name Butterfly, but no matter I am proud to have Butterfly signature on my equipment and not lousy Galaxy! Some people like to have best equipment from best brand and if I cant give 200 dollars for my racquet then f**k why am I living then!
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:41pm |
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You are fooling yourself if you think that playing with butterfly blade instead of a galaxy blade will make you a better player.
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JimT
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 2:59pm |
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MOL, it's time to start growing up... when you were a kid, your susceptibility to propaganda was understandable, we all repeat and believe in things that adults tell us. But when you are an adult yourself, it's time to start forming your own opinions formed on something more than a few glossy booklets from a large company who might (or might not) be sponsoring you in the future...
Also, nobody said anything bad about Butterfly quality here, and as far as I recall you never played with Galaxy blades - then why you are throwing a tantrum all of sudden? Good luck. |
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 3:03pm |
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Then why you use blade that cost 130 dollars? I can get every blade that I want because my club will buy me everything I want. Instead of this I bought from my money 2 Mizutani blades because I dont want to return my blade to my club if I want to go to other TT club. I am 100% sure that I play alot better with Mizutani ZLC then with some of the Galaxy blade. Your conclusion that TT player that train and play with Marko Jeftovic (162 ranked player in the world) can play same with every blade is CRAZY for me
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 3:10pm |
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please you all relax and let's go back to the main subject , anyone who switched from Schlager to Almutart please write your reviews. thanks
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 3:16pm |
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First of all, this statement sounds extremely strange for a guy who never played with Galaxy blades. That shows where your capability for independent thinking stands... Secondly, for those who have no problem remembering all your previous posts on this forum, this sounds laughable. I myself remember you going thru at least three very different blades, each time pronouncing that the new blade was the super-best in the world and you sticking with it forever. If we can manage to set our alarm clocks properly, we should revisit this in 6 months or in 1 year to check on your playing blade then... Good luck until then. |
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 3:17pm |
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Sorry man didn't want to hijack your topic. There are some forummers here who played with Amultart but I am not sure I recall anyone making exactly the kind of transition you are interested in. |
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 3:25pm |
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My blade is one ply. I have played for years with multiply blade that costs about 10$.
I think I have watched one video of you playing. If I remember correctly you can play on the same level with a Galaxy or whatever decent blade. But that's not the point, the point is that no matter what blade you are using Mizutani ZL or Galaxy XXX, the blade does not make you a better player.
Of course there is also a psychological factor here. If you strongly believe that your Mizutani is the best blade on this planet you could actually play better with it but you won't be a better player.
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 4:03pm |
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That video is 2 years old. From that time I play every day about 3 hours of hard training with 4 of the best trainers in Serbia. These days because I am on holiday now, I train 5 hours per day. I am now 31 ranked player in Serbia. I improve my game alot and soon as possible I will post my new video. Then you will see can I play same with Mizutani ZLC and with Galaxy.
Sorry mdman
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 4:22pm |
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where is the vid? 
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 4:39pm |
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Don't be sorry boy. Enjoy your Mizutani.
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 4:45pm |
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Posted: 07/31/2009 at 11:14pm |
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It's okay as long as there will be more reviews!
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Posted: 08/01/2009 at 10:52am |
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Would T64 on FH and Bryce Speed Fx for BH On Amultart be a good set up???
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Posted: 08/01/2009 at 11:02am |
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This will be very hard to control.. even T05 is hard to control with Amultart. |
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Posted: 08/01/2009 at 12:39pm |
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But right now I have the same on schlager carbon and the control is just fine, and Schlager Carbon is faster than Almutart ! |
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T05, T64 and T25 on both an Amultart and a Schlager Carbon are controllable and play well if you like these blades. I like both blades and I have played with all of these rubbers on both blades.
Most recently I was using T25 on FH & BH on the Amultart but yesterday I switched to T25 on FH/BH on the Schlager Carbon to just get that extra speed from the SC. It helps the T25 play strongly when further away from the table. I find T05 to be too slow. T64 to be a bit soft. |
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Posted: 08/01/2009 at 3:11pm |
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JRSDallas: thanks for the input it is nice to know that Schlager and Amultart are alike, but let me ask you this, you change blades and rubbers all the time? Are we not sopposed to stick With on racket for good improvement? Or its okay to keep changing blades and rubbers? Thanks again |
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Posted: 08/01/2009 at 7:53pm |
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Is it possible to transfer rubbers from schlager carbon to an Amultart? I mean are the faces the same size?
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Posted: 08/01/2009 at 11:30pm |
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Just to be clear, I did not say both blades are alike. The Amultart has more flex than the SC. Not much flex, but more than the Schlager Carbon. The feel of the Amultart is also not as hard as the SC, even though it does have a harder feel than every other blade I listed later in this thread (except for the SC). As for changing rubbers, you can easily change rubbers between the Amultart, the Schlager Carbon, the Timo Boll ALC/ZLF/ZLC/T5000/W7/Spirit, Ishlion, Kreanga Carbon, Primorac Carbon, Mitzutani Jun, Viscaria, Photino, Maze and probably any other Butterfly blade with a 157 x 150 mm blade face dimension as they all seem to have the same blade face size and shape.
On the point of changing blades and rubbers -- Yes I change them all the time until I reach a combination that I am happy with. I then stick with that combination until I am unhappy and then I start changing again to find what might make me happy.
I don't stick with something I am unhappy with for too long but I probably change more frequently than most. If I am happy with a combination, I will stick with a blade for 6 months to a year but I will get back up blades of the same model. I also may bounce between a few similar blades.
I went on a significant search with the ending of speed glue and finally found Tenergy 25 on a fast Amultart and a Schlager. It then took me a few rounds to try to resolve what rubber to use on my BH. I settled on T64 for a while.
Earlier in the year I began to feel that I still wasn't happy with the BH and that I didn't have the feel I thought I needed. So....over the past 4 months I tried out 15 blades and many combinations of Tenergy 05/25/64 in a search for a combination that would open new dimensions in my game. I went from a fast stiff blade down to a more flexible spin blade and then kept working my way back up to a fast stiff blade. I've been through (and taken vibration data on) the Clipper, W1, Dynamix 17, TB ALC, TB ZLF, TB T5000, Rutis, Dawai Power Carbon, Crisan, Diamond TC, 86 gm Amultart, 91 gm Amultart and now in the last couple of days -- back to my 91 gm Schlager Carbon.
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Posted: 08/02/2009 at 1:33am |
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Thanks for the great info JRSDALLAS, I have heard that with the Almutart you can open loops on everything, even very heavy chops and they said it is also good for flat hitting better than Schlager Carbon, and I really want to try it on this one guy who is a heavy chopper and lots of my loops go into the net when I play him.
So hopefully Almutart will help me to loop easier on his chops. |
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