Palio CJ8000 vs. Hadou vs. HK1997. vs ????

I have only become aware of Palio rubbers recently.  I'm interested in the playing characteristics of these and other palio rubbers so that I can make an informed buying decision.  I want to see if its worth the effort and money to experiment.

Of interest are CJ8000, Hadou and HK 1997.  I'm very interested in how they play, how they "feel" and how they compare to rubbers like Mark V and Donic Desto F3 Big Slam. 

I'm currently using mostly Big Slam.  I know its strengths and limitations, and generally enjoy using it.  I like the "liveliness" of the "glue feel" that Big Slam provides.  I also enjoy that feel in T05, but that rubber seems a little faster and heavier than my tastes. 

If there are other Palio rubbers that I might enjoy trying, please comment.

Any opinions regarding palio rubbers are appreciated. 

BTW, I had a bad experience with tacky rubber in the past.  I'm not sure I want to try tacky rubber again, but maybe that will change.

TIA,

SH

I played with CJ8000 and HK1997. They are both very good rubbers, I ordered the CJ8000 from Cole w/cannon sponge. The CJ8000 loops and flat hits very easily on my Keyshot light blade. It has enough power from mid distance and the touch shots are easy to execute.

cj8000 on my friend's wood blade feel medium soft but still pretty bouncy and grippy. quality wise it's awesome. he's been playing it for almost 2 months  now(almost every weekday) and the sheet still looks shiny. depending on ur blade u can use it for looping or flat hitting. it's cheap and good for training. i'm playing with mark v right now on a softer carbon blade. it feels a bit too fast. if it were not for the grippy topsheet, i wouldn't have been able to control it. mark v has a firmer sponge than cj8000 and a grippier topsheet.
biotech sponge is great for cj8000. it provides better feel and more dwell time than mark v with a jp sponge...

Thanks for the feedback.  I just ordered

2 x CJ8000 Biotech 2.2 39 - 41 (1 rd, 1 blk)
2 x HK1997 Biotech 2.2 36 - 38 (1 rd, 1 blk)
2 x HK1997 Biotech 2.2 39 - 41 (1 rd, 1 blk)

Total price was about what I pay for a couple of sheets of Mark V, less than a couple of sheets of Big Slam.

By the time it gets here (from Ping Pong World), my new Worz "Beat Stick" should be finished.

I'll let you know what I think. 

thanks for the tip.

I didn't look really hard, pretty much just eBay.  I didn't find CJ8000 Biotech in a 36 - 38 sponge or I would have ordered it.

I passed on Macro Era because I couldn't find much on that rubber.

I'm looking forward to trying these new rubbers.  If I can find a rubber as fun to use, lively and controllable as Big Slam, I'll be quite happy.  My hope is that I'll be able to find an inexpensive alternative.  Replacing Big Slam at $90 every two or three months is a PITA.

zwu168 wrote: well out of those 3, HK1997 should be the best. HK is known for being the best chinese made tacky rubber. great performance but weighs too much.

Tacky?  I hope not.  I am after a rubber with grippy mechanical spin, not tacky rubber.