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    Posted: 08/15/2009 at 4:39pm
Again this is for my brother.
 
He was just wondering the differences, hes heard that the Stiga OC WRB is lighter and more powerful but does anyone know if there is a difference in flexibility and softness.
 
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P.S also does anyone know if the normal Nimbus will work well with stiga OC WRB. Also maybe any other blade choices that will work well with Nimbus please.
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Difference is: If you like head heavy blade go with WRB (air in handle) I try Stiga OC WRB and i don't like it (I love all wood handle) No difference in flexibility etc. i think
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WRB handle is hollow while regular handle solid.
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So the reduced weight is just in the handle?
Can anyone compare the weight of the OC with some other blades
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Hve two OC Cr without wrb. They are 77 and 84 gr.
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You can check blade weight at Paddle palace. The hollow handle could help with few grams lighter

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I have a OC WRB that ive been playing with for years (since 2005), also it my first ever blade. It weighs in at 82grams.

I also have a Clipper CR wrb weighing in at 96gr, and a clipper wood at 100gr. Both i hate playing with, as I find it it too heavy. Recently I got my forth blade, the ebenholz V which ways in at 92grs (Master non-wrb.)

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Originally posted by Waldmeister Waldmeister wrote:

Hve two OC Cr without wrb. They are 77 and 84 gr.
That is the OC CR though.  I am talking about the OC only. Are they the same weight or OC CR a little lighter.
 
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Thanks for the info.  Whats the weight of ur OC WRB do u know? and is it head heavy?
 
edit: oh sorry u said it was 82 grams lol.  Have u ever tried the OC? whats the weight difference?
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I have both
OC WRB 75.3g. 5.3mm
OC        85.7g. 5.4mm

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Originally posted by joris joris wrote:

I have both
OC WRB 75.3g. 5.3mm
OC        85.7g. 5.4mm

 
Big%20smile thanks
What do they play like comparing with each other.  Quite flexible?  do they feel the same in terms of feeling. Is the WRB head heavy?
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Sorry, I didn't play w/ them,I can't tell  the feeling. By my measurement,they are made by same material and size, the diff. is only their handle, the center  is still on the same point on their blades, I don't know why,WRB supposed to be head heavy, but I didn't feel that.
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Really depends what rubbers you use. If you use very heavy ones you will feel it but lighter ones, not really.
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Originally posted by joris joris wrote:

Sorry, I didn't play w/ them,I can't tell  the feeling. By my measurement,they are made by same material and size, the diff. is only their handle, the center  is still on the same point on their blades, I don't know why,WRB supposed to be head heavy, but I didn't feel that.
 
Supposedly its just the handle that is lighter.  If thats the case then when u slap on some rubbers the setup will naturally feel over balanced.  Did u feel that the WRB fel lighter overall or just in the handle?
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Both are balance, they have the same centre point.
Look at this
OC WRB 75.3g. 5.3mm
OC        85.7g. 5.4mm
WRB lighter but 0.1mm less than other, that 's the way they made both have the same balance point.

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Ndragon88, I havent played with OC before. I don't think you should worry about wrb or not, it just depends on whether your preference lay in wanting a balanced blade or a slightly head heavy blade - what you are most comfortable playing with.

By the way, where abouts in england you from? near london perhaps?
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Originally posted by sadius sadius wrote:

WRB handle is hollow while regular handle solid.

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The only main difference is the handle. Hollow handle vs non-hollow handle. WRB is a hollow handle system which makes the blade slightly head heavier. Most of the players I know don't like the WRB system, hence while you'll see on www.paddlepalace.com, them saying a special reference for OC CR non-wrb made especially for China National Team or something like that.

There is a slight difference in thickness. Offensive Classic is supposed to be 5.5mm thick and the OC WRB is supose to be 5.48mm thick. So if you really think .02mm will make a huge difference in flexibility for your level of play, then it might be something you'd want to consider.

WRB usually will save you a couple of grams.
On the Stiga China catalog, OC non WRB is suppose to be 82g +-2g, and OC WRB is suppose to be 77g +-2g. I've see OC non WRB as low as 67g and TommyZai's Special OC CR is 68.5g. I have a 69g OC CR non WRB myself.

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Originally posted by MaoaMz MaoaMz wrote:


By the way, where abouts in england you from? near london perhaps?
 
yup im from North London.  I play for 3es and i train alot at Ellenborough TTC.  Do u know of them?
Where abouts r u from?
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Can anyone comment on the vibration of the OC non wrb.
 
Thanks for all ur replies everyone.
 
OC 82g? thats cpen tho what about shakehand?
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OC WRB and none are hard blades. Little to non vibration there
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Originally posted by sadius sadius wrote:

OC WRB and none are hard blades. Little to non vibration there


HK is a much harder blade than OC. OC WRB/non WRB is definitely softer than OC CR. (CR is the hardening of the wood using UV rays - stiga technology) If regular OC is a hard blade with little to no vibration (9 on the hardness level in geological terms... then OC CR would be a diamond? (10)? no vibration? What would schalger carbon be? a 25 on a 1-10 scale?

OC is most definitely a softer blade in comparison to most blade out in the market. Clipper is a thicker blade than OC/CR which vibrates less. OC's 5mm thickness is considered rather thin on Stiga's all wood blades selection. It most definitely vibrates. Good control blade and I wouldn't recommend it for Shakehand unless it's for developing players. It's a great cpen blade though.

Shakehand OC is around 82 +-2g, but most that I've seen are around 84g
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thanks for the info :)
My brother isnt a developing player, well he is i suppose because everyone is a developing player. But he is already of a good standard, i would say 100-200 junior in england and getting better fast.
 
The reason he wants this kind of blade is so it is paired up with the original Nimbus rubber. Soft blade + hard rubbers.  If u wouldnt recommend it then what blade would u recommend to go with Nimbus?
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Sorry Ndragon88, no experience with Nimbus. Embarrassed Wish I could help you out on that one.
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hye guys ...... i just got a new oc yesterday ,and i found tat it was just 76-78g if im not mistaken ( cpen) ..........  seach a big deff from you all mention in previous posted ... = ="/   why like tat ?/

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My OC CR non WRB is 79 grams Legend shakehand (will be lighter now since I shaved the handle to in between legend and master size)

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In my opinion, i wouldn't suggest any WRB blades unless you're sure you like the feel. I would say its not everybody's favourite.
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I wont be buying another Stiga blade without WRB now that I've tried it

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how stupid is wlq playing with v1 no wrb. lol.
 
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Originally posted by Ndragon88 Ndragon88 wrote:

Can anyone comment on the vibration of the OC non wrb.

Thanks for all ur replies everyone.


OC 82g? thats cpen tho what about shakehand?

IMO vibration is from the thickness of blade,less than 5.5mm thick all have vibration i have oc cr wrb ,is a good blade but if you like flat hitting in ur game better choice more solid blade,now i use YEO is best match for my game (BSFX fh2.0 & solcion bh2.0)
btw my oc cr wrb is 75gr.
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I agree with that, the OC CR I have is very thin, (about 5mm) the V1 is over 6mm so it's a much more solid blade, being carbon also, it has no bad vibration even the WRB version

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