Rubbers with permanent glue effect/very long

I know many people will disagree but I've enjoyed BTY Catapult quite a bit.  When I play 3x a week, it lasts about 6 mos.  If I play once a week, it lasts for a year.  I know many people have written that it has no speed glue effect and that's fine.  I think SGE has to be broken down i.e. glue sound, glue feel, glue performance.  For the Catapult, sound is almost nothing unless you hit it really hard, glue feel is good (rated 32 degrees by BTY and lets the ball sink nicely) and performance - spin and catapult effect are excellent but speed isn't so high.  For me, it's a lightly speed glued Sriver FX.  I also get the max thickness so that helps a lot.  But as far as durability, it's great and it doesn't change properties too much.

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729-08
I have (and played) both forward and bounce package, all hardnesses available (black). These rubbers are the same. Sometimes there is difference in tackiness, but this is not anything uncommon. 729-08 plays aprox. 40hours with no change. After that the topsheet changes, so it plays little bit different. There is not any speedglue effect in the sponge. No friendship has speedglue effect, 729-5 has not.
729-08 49deg. does not react with tuning very well. The sponge seems to have immunity. I had to try really hard to impart some tuning into the sponge. The result was weak. 45deg. sponge reacts better. The result was bad. More speed, less spin. Completely wasted money.
729-08 factory tuned has only elastic layer of "something" on the sponge. Nothing changes the sponge itself. This layer add speed when hitting harder. Exactly like BW2.
729-08 is a rubbers designed to play without speedglue and without tuning/boosters. Unfortunately it is slower than it could be. Designed to played without speedglue DOES NOT MEAN that it playes like speedglue or that it feels like speedglue. WAKE UP! It means it performs well, while old friendships perform like ..crap without speedglue/tuners.
729-08 package with bottle of something is like an UFO. You have pictures but that is all. Nonsense you dont need to think about, you are wasting your time and energy. BTW boosters dont have the same effect as speedglue had. It is simillar, but not the same. Those who used to speedglue know.

German ESN tensors:
They have glue effect as long as they last. Producers guarantee an avarage number of  playing hours before the rubber dies (is worn down). German tensors have evolved - there are generations of tensors. Basically they have nice speedglue feel effect, but they had too thin and soft topsheet so it died too fast. The durability improved with further generations. Still they have speedglue feel and speed, but lack speedglue spin. The effect lasts as long as the rubbers last. If you play with them longer than 40hours (in average), you cant be surprised by loss of former energy in it.

Tenergy series:
The best improvement and substitute for speedglue/tuners in the world (so far). While ESN tensors have speed, tenergy series have both speed and spin. The speed is not that high as it was before, tenergies are slower than some ESN tensors but they are spinny. This is the reason why top players use them. They dont have speedglue feel, they have some feel but it is different. The topsheet is thicker and harder so it lasts longer. Tenergy rubbers have great durability. They play little bit worse after some time, but still better than others.

ESN and tenergies have their features because of production process. It is technology that makes them play that way. Dont expect some liquid that treats the sponge in order to improve their characteristics. Technology of processing the sponge and material of the topsheet. This is why you dont need to care about how long the effect lasts. This is wrong question, the proper question is How long the rubbers last?

Chinese rubbers - factory tuned with layer of elastic "tuning":
This is the case when effect diminishes before the rubber dies. As the elastic layer dries, it looses its elasticity and looses its characteristics. The effect is diminishing. This is why they are kept in vacuum.

NEO series:
These rubbers are shortly available. I have H2 NEO for 1 month and I made an order as soon as it was possible. H2 NEO does not have any layer of tuning. It has layer of glue. This layer has one reason: to force people to not to use voc glue or boosters. Why? because today IT IS FORBIDDEN TO USE TUNERS. DHS showed us that their NEO rubbers have improved sponge. Their better playing characteristics come from the sponge itself.
After one month with H2NEO I didnt notice any changes. NEO is very very good improvement in DHS product range and makes their rubbers playable without speedglue/tuners again. 

So again - what exactly are you looking for? Speedglue effect (feel)? It appeared to be wrong way to try to imitate the feel. The feel does not play. The key is to develop rubbers which play good without speedglue/tuners. Rubbers that you just attach and play with.
Why to search for something that imitates, like BW2 with tuning layer, outlaw with oil leaking (WTF, this sounds crazy) and so on? There are rubbers produced by advanced technology and improvement in materials they are made from - real modern rubbers. Go with them.

kenneyy, i believe nothing will happen. The glue on the sponge protects the sponge from voc included in rub.cement. In your case I would try to use cement only on blade and try if it will stick to the glue on neo sponge. If not, use rubber cement on DHS glue as well.
Imho chinese sponge will survive anything ;)

tomas.gt...it is very hard to believe that Friendship would lie..b/c they call their 729-08 pretune version.  Check it out on zeropong.com

Sadius:

I tried to remove DHS glue from NEO but this layer is very very thin and I cant separate it from the sponge. I would have to use paraffin or another voc and this is not what I want to do.

tomas.gt wrote: OK. There is not any speedglue effect in the sponge. No friendship has speedglue effect, 729-5 has not.

okay....which rubber u guys think has the GREATEST speed glue effect?  like 10 or 20 layers of it....

sidofmillenium wrote: okay....which rubber u guys think has the GREATEST speed glue effect?  like 10 or 20 layers of it....

Almost all of Andro's rubbers r built-in speed glue including Revo fire, Impuls Speed, Quad Series.

I got a chance to play w/ it...it is a mockery of prespeed glue...has no arc....great for flat hits....

I searched on google...and found good reviews for Andro rubbers...