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Reinecke
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Posted: 02/01/2010 at 3:29pm |
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Check out the center ply here on my Galaxy W-1:
The center ply has the grain perpendicular to the face of the blade! WTF is happening! It's like someone cut off the end of a log and used that for a center ply haha. Also notice how the blade goes from 7 ply to 9 ply near the handle, with red colored wood. I've played with this blade some and liked it so far, lots of control. Are there any other blades that have the center ply grain traveling in that direction? What does this do to the blade's performance? |
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wtf.. first time for me to see a center ply like that 0.0
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Its balsa... pretty sure anyway.
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It's straight and they prependicular to each other
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that would make it softer i guess
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I think the different plies in the handle is what gives it the wooden feel or it adds some vibration/feel to the handle.
Also notice there's 2-plys of Limba on top of the carbon. Innerforce W-1? |
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That would be great if someone could compare the two, innerforce and W-1, I've never even seen an Innerforce. |
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I've always taken it to be balsa, but fortunately not thin enough to make the blade fragile.
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that's balsa for sure. my cousin has a butterfly balsa carbo x5. it has a center balsa ply. i couldn't get a closer look at the edge of the blade. sorry. maybe you can save then zoom it :)
http://butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7704ST.jpg |
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cofferlait, maybe hinoki center ply?
TSP Balsa, balsa center Balsa Carbo X5, not vertical grain |
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The first two are the only other blades I've found with this "vertical" grain, the balsa carbo was an example of a balsa center that isn't vertical grained
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That's a new technology called "Naturally-Generated Vertical Uniaxial Cellulosic Fibers".
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Could you post a link? I googled it but didn't find any help. Is it what is in the new inner-force blades? Butterfly also has uniaxial, but it is parallel to the blade face, still not like this. What are the main blades using this technology? |
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I think so too Could you compare it's speed/control to your TBS? Or any blade for that matter? Also did you think it was OFF+, OFF, OFF-? I'm fairly new to trying different blades so I wish I had something to compare it to. |
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A vertical grain center ply is an intelligent method of achieving a stronger blade and it is exactly the what is done in a honeycomb core plate.
The center ply does not contribute to the overall stiffness of the sandwich structure (i.e. the blade) nearly as much as the outer carbon layer. Essentially you can ignore it. It only serves to keep the carbon layers separate. However, the carbon layer will locally collapse under the point load of a ball impact unless it is supported from below.
The resistance to compression (denting) of the balsa wood with a perpendicular grain (as shown in the pictures) is much higher than the compresion strength of the same wood when the grain is parallel to the surface of the blade.
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Perfect! Just what I was looking for I felt good about it but just wanted a comparison, thanks a lot! |
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Very interesting, how did you know all that? From what you said it seems that having the carbon layers closer to the center therefore 2 layers from the outside is what gives the blade more of a wood feel. I was wondering why a carbon blade was called "The Wood King" haha. I'm studying engineering and am taking some of my first classes on materials, I wanna blurt out something about table tennis every 5 minutes during the lecture, but I hold my tongue edit: I actually remembered you're the guy that did the loooonnnnnggg post on materials at DTTW, thanks so much for writing that it was great for an aspiring engineer to read. Are you an engineer? What type? Are there engineering jobs in the table tennis industry |
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more stiifness= more speed
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I have a physics background and I taught myself the mechanical engineering specifics of the problem because I wanted to understand it myself. There might be engineering opportunities in TT but I would suspect they are few. Engineering is a great field to pursue and it is a great foundation even if you migrate into other functions within a company or other fields of work. Understanding how things work is more valuable to yourself and others than not having a clue is.
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I kind of assumed the jobs would be few. It's okay though, I'll find something to enjoy, and you're right about having the technical background. I want to be on more of the business side of engineering company, but I will still get jobs over business majors in many cases. (at least that's the plan) |
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