Corkscrew spin serve + Sidespin serve

I once read on ping-pong.com that most powerful shot should be your serve.  Ofcourse, its only a school of thought as Europeans like to do short motions.  But, if you look at the chinese, they have a very huge and quick motion....getting more of their muscles into play. 

Thanks :) I'm hoping to be able to do the reverse tomahawk in the future :D

I liked the reverse serve! Looks like WLQ, especially the 2nd one... I've been trying to master that for ages but couldn't get enough spin so I switched to a forehand tomahawk instead. Any tips on doing that?

A few tips for your pendulum: Use your body-weight to 'sink' onto the ball, it'll create much heavier spin. To make it more deceptive, try to  contact the ball closer to your body and hide your follow-through behind your body. Since you're quite comfortable with producing spin, try to shorten your stroke as much as possible while retaining the spin. This will make it much harder to read...

Ye I was actually trying to demonstrate how to serve this so I dont want to hide  But in match I always shorten the movement and hide a bit with my torso to make it deceptive as you said above. 

haha, I would try to collect some soon. Like people who plays with me and lose will die :D maybe I'll be able to collect a few ^^ 

you get some really good spin in that dungeon of yours for sure buddy! i'm working on keeping the serve low while still having a really short time between bounces.

Good spin.

The only thing i'd tell you is to watch the height at which you strike the ball.  Your services right now leave too many chances open for attack.  With a lower bounce they'd be vicious serves.

kenneyy88 wrote: Good spin but the serves are too short.

APW46 wrote: kenneyy88 wrote: Good spin but the serves are too short.     Can you explain why that is bad?

Serving long/half long is definitely easier IMHO, but serving short takes a lot of practice. Varying the spin on short serves is the key as they return is something you want to build your game on. As a modern defender myself, I like to serve long to set myself up for a heavy chop or go for a FH counter loop.

It's weird that I find it easier to serve short than long, but I was told (not by kenneyy88 ) not to serve short, either double bounce, or long depending on the opponent, bc serving short give opponent easy ball placement, and thus give away the control (that you suppose to have as a server) back to your opponent.  I still find it hard to double bounce though .

Yes, we are quite the same indeed. I'm also forehand dominant and I'm also able to attack with my long pips, not very consistently but I can smack quite hard  I also thought of the twiddling thing although I dont like it so much but its the only way to force them to attack with lots of spin since you generated lots of backspin on the ball right? And I was hell of an impatient player ( used to be aggressive attacker with tenergy and amultart ) but now things is going better 
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Ok, I will be waiting for those wicked people  It's cool in the US they have the USATT points and stuff, they dont have it here in Sweden so I dont really have any idea where am I at -_-