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PingPongHolic10 
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 Topic: Thinner the sponge = more feel??& 5.4 T ReviewPosted: 02/16/2010 at 3:17pm |
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I was trying my friends' blades and some of them has very thin sponge. I have a 1.9 sriver on BH and when I hit RPB, I dont feel it as much as when I hit with theirs... Was just wondering if the sponge thickness matters when it comes to feeling/control.
Also, have anybody tried or owned a stiga 5.4 titanium. I love the power, but sometimes it's prone to making alotta mistakes. I feel like if I'm able to control this beast, it'll do me alot of good in the future. Perhaps I can use a slower or rubbers that offer more control? Any insights or comments are more than welcome...
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melarimsa
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Posted: 02/16/2010 at 3:55pm |
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Yes. Thiner the sponge, more feel and control. Many says that you dont have any caracteristics going 1.0mm or less, but I say WRONG. I find looping with 1.2mm is same as 1.8mm, but hey, nobody is perfect, ha ha h a
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Baal
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Posted: 02/16/2010 at 5:59pm |
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No feel at all once you bottom out.
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Rich215
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Posted: 02/16/2010 at 9:06pm |
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no no.....its all feel at that point....You feel the blade...hehehehe.  |
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Jonan
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Posted: 02/16/2010 at 9:50pm |
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Depends on the stroke. Many Chinese players from ~20 years ago played with very thin sponges, bottomed out on certain strokes, but they could use that to their advantage. |
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melarimsa
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Posted: 02/16/2010 at 9:51pm |
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ZingyDNA
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Posted: 02/16/2010 at 10:12pm |
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Obviously thinner sponge has more feel simply because there's less stuff between the ball and the blade. I think for looping you need the sponge to keep the ball on the racket for a while, but as long as it doesn't bottom out, 2.0 or 1.8 is enough. If you go thinner than that you get even more feel in passive shots, and it's also better for flat hits because bottoming out is a good thing (less dwell leads to less sensitive to spin). Just my 2c.
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Posted: 02/17/2010 at 5:18pm |
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i feel.... (and this is just my opinion.. not validated):
thinner sponge gives more feel when the blade has some little bit of flex at least. if the blade is a thick and stiff carbon composite blade, thinner sponge actually reduces the feel compared to thicker sponge. |
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Baal
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Therein lies the rub. I have never played with a harder Chinese sponge, so with those maybe those rubbers are different. But with everything I have ever played with -- glued Butterfly, various tensors, Tenergy, bottoming will happen a lot, certainly with 1.8. I suppose it depends on how you play. |
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ZingyDNA
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Posted: 02/17/2010 at 11:26pm |
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I guess that's why you're better than me. You must power loop a lot so you need the sponge for the ball to sink in. That's hard to for me to control. When I swing hard it's especially difficult to control how much I rub and how much I hit the ball... |
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Posted: 02/18/2010 at 1:35am |
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Feeling is a combo gift. |
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PingPongHolic10
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So I've been trying this new combo with my Stiga T5.4, and it's been pretty good. I was gonna give up on it after 30 hours of frustration, but I saw the potential of the blade, 9ply mastepiece by Stiga, with Ultra thin Titanium mixed with bonding glue. The hollow sound of the blade doesnt bother me so much as it's a big problem for carbon-blade users. I knew from day one that if I can control this blade, it'll be a great asset.
After much configuration with rubbers-to-t5.4, I found one where it excels. Control is gianormusly better with BTY Tackifire Special Soft 2.1 cause the sponge hardness is only 38, Hard rubbers dont work well with this blade. RPB with 1.5 729 Faster. Altho it's not as fast on forehand where I have to do 3-move combos to score against a tough opponent. so I'm debating on whether to find a faster substitute with a slight harder sponge 39-40. but I believe T-05 has hard sponge(just found out the density for t-series is at 34-36. Looping from mid-far distance is the bread-n-butter for this blade, IMO. TackFire Sp increases dwell time when applied, keeps my opponents guessing when I'm attacking
RPB is great! I can punch it in even if it's low and close to the net, perhaps it could be my long arms...=) Looping is fairly easy since I can place it on either side of the table. When RPBing, the pop sounds exactly like what carbon blades produce, but louder. Hahaa, that's because it's like hitting with wood...lol
Overall, I would rate as follows on T5.4:
Speed 8.5 (very similar to MMaze)
Control 6.5, (w/Bty TackFire SP 8.5)
Hope that'll help those that might decide on making the purchase on T5.4. it's on sale at ttpioneers! Cheers
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Does the T5.4 vibrate much with a softer sponge or not really?
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Your play will change your opinion of your equipment more than your equipment will change your opinion of your play.
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PingPongHolic10
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Posted: 03/04/2010 at 11:36am |
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I dont think it vibrates that much, It doesnt bother me regardless cause it doesnt effect my play. I'll have one of my club mate test it cause he dislikes flex blades. Will let you know soon
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i think only the WRB version have the vibration problems. good luck
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