TSP CURL P-H OX and Fukuoka Haruna

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charlesj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 06/28/2008 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 1072	Post Options Post Reply Quote charlesj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TSP CURL P-H OX and Fukuoka Haruna Posted: 04/30/2010 at 12:08am
	If Fukuoka Haruna were to use TSP CURL P-H OX instead of P3 for her playing style... since PH is more consistent and better than attacking than P3? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj7Haja5cSo do you think it would work for her style if she change to PH? :)

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spinnyloop Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 04/10/2010 Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote spinnyloop Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/07/2010 at 3:26pm
	anyone using P-H OX? How's it compared to P3?

joris Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/15/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1301	Post Options Post Reply Quote joris Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/07/2010 at 11:10pm
	I'm using P-H 0.5mm, it attacks look like SP.
	joris

charlesj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 06/28/2008 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 1072	Post Options Post Reply Quote charlesj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/10/2010 at 7:34am
	Thanks for your feedback! I used P3 OX before but I wanted to try P-H OX. Because of the higher price I just wanted to know why it is so expensive or perhaps because of its special characteristics.. anyway so am I right to say these based on what I heard?... P-H: It has the closest characteristics to pip-in rubbers as compared to other long pips. Meaning it can be used to do normal pushes and smash just like smooth rubbers. This would also mean it is more sensitive to incoming spin like smooth rubbers. The ability to do reversal just by passive blocking is not as good as P3 and it requires active chop block in order to reverse the spin. Overall, P-H is more suitable for attacking players rather than defense. P3: This has better passive blocking and spin reversal capabilities than P-H. Better reversal means more disturbance to opponents who can't handle long pip return well. However, because of better reversal ability, attacking using this long pip is not as consistent as P-H - Meaning more chances of ball ending up in the net or off the table. Overall, P3 is more suitable for all rounders who want to attack and also to defense. So if I were to play like Fukuoka Haruna for her backhand, I wonder if I should switch from P-3 OX to P-H OX... or that I should consider other pips instead? btw I am pen holder, pip-in on forehand and only use OX on the back for more variety of attack and defense options on my backhand. Well, large percentage that I would use the OX - to flip backspin balls to attack my opponent... - and sometimes block loops to reverse the spin back and change the rhythm of opponents attack. That is all I need... For P3... I think I'm lacking consistency... sometimes I get the ball into the net and sometimes off the table for the above 2 actions. So I'm wondering if P-H would help... or perhaps I have not fully mastered P3 yet... hahaha :D

joris Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/15/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1301	Post Options Post Reply Quote joris Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:44pm
	I think every LP OX is hard to control or lacking consistency. I used P1R OX before, then changed to P1R 0.5mm with Avalox 555 penhold, feel better control. Now, I use P-H 0.5mm with Spintech Absolute Power,it is a perfect combination, it offences look like SP and defence still has LP effect.
	joris

a23096713 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 08/20/2004 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 250	Post Options Post Reply Quote a23096713 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/11/2010 at 2:11am
	technically speaking, if your blade is good for control and slow. OX LP still are consistent. However, OX LP really need a suitable blade for the job. Hard surface and medium speed speed will make it really hard to use.
	Chop, Chop, and Counter Loop! BTY Cutlass + Tackiness D + Feint OX TSP Astron Yellow + Yasaka Original + Nittaku pimplemini One TSP Yanagi + UQ + BTY OX

charlesj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 06/28/2008 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 1072	Post Options Post Reply Quote charlesj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/16/2010 at 5:44am
	Actually I'm wondering how come P-H is so expensive... I guess its one of the most expensive long pips out there... and much more than P3. If P-H is really better than P3 in attacks... especially for hitting/lifting backspin balls... I think I would do the switch to P-H OX then... since looping in quite difficult in the backhand... then this OX can help me to attack instead of trying to loop. Anyway... any other long pips that I should consider as well besides P-H? Aim: mostly for hit/lift backspin... and sometimes near table block of incoming loop.

joris Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/15/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1301	Post Options Post Reply Quote joris Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/16/2010 at 4:42pm
	If you like to attack and with LP effect, try 0.5mm, don't used OX.
	joris

Princepeco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 05/15/2010 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote Princepeco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/16/2010 at 8:16pm
	lots special OX are specifically design with OX uses only, such as thicker backing, or special texture backing. There is a reason why they are marketed as OX uses. Something has to be unique about it to make it special, fukuoka's unorthodox style is a good example of OX long pip style. It actually puzzles me as well that Curl-P H is expensive. Technically speaking, the material use on OX are much less than a normal inverted. I can't give you an answer for why it's so expensive. Maybe one day when I got some spare $$$ I'll get one to let my wife test it out as she plays like fukuoka as well. PS: I believe Fukuoka already semi-retired early due to leg operation on both knee when she was 17. It's a shame to see such unique play style die with her disappearance.
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charlesj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 06/28/2008 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 1072	Post Options Post Reply Quote charlesj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05/17/2010 at 7:32am
	Yah it's a pity for her

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