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asimriz
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Posted: 05/22/2010 at 4:35am |
Hey guys, I wanted to know how long a rubber can last while retaining it's properties (for which I basically paid for). I have a JOOLA Express One & a JOOLA Express Two all packaged lying in my cupboard. I bought them abt a month ago. So how long can I keep them that way ? As long as the plastic packaging is not ruptured I guess ?
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Maybe for the old school rubbers - maybe not.
It could not possibly be 60 hours! Rubber distributers would be out of business...60 is hours only about 2 and a half days. If they shipped the rubbers the day they got them they would have 'expired' when they arrived. I am not sure about the true shelf-life of rubbers...ask a TT superstore, they should know. |
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anubhav1984
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I am with you on this!! It's not possible that the shelf life of a rubber is only 60 hours. I guess the older generation ones are the ones that should possibly have a very very long life compared to the new gen ones, especially the new gen tuned ones.
However, coming back to the topic again, i believe it should atleast be a 6-8 months period. I guess either Alex or Haggisv would pitch in anytime soon !
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prott.co.uk
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There is no expiry date on rubbers, I think as long as rubbers are kept in cool place away from direct sunlight in not so humid/dry environment and are kept unopened in their protective packaging then they can last for ages.
It's certainly not 60 hours nor 60 days. |
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Ranger-man
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Even opened rubbers that are cleaned, covered with plastic protector and then put away in ziploc last a few months easy so I am sure brand new ones last much longer. I have known some to last yeas and years but they could be exceptions.
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I bet when he said "60 hours" he meant how long you can play the rubber...just a misunderstanding...
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actually a few years ago, i found a rubber "Juice 999 elite" lying around that I have never opened brand new in the package that I had somewhere for about 5 years. I thought it was bad but when I opened it up and tried it, it was still brand new.
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Conan the Greek
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Mark V and Sriver are like Twinkies. Since they last forever, there is no shelf life.
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That's true if you open a Mark V after 20 years is still exactly the same as the day it was made. I've tried this :). I've even played with one that's been used and on a blade for 30 years, just in a bat cover, no covers on the rubbers themself and it was still usable
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The rubber, and sponge may not have shelf life, but the glue that hold them together may go bad after a long period. I don't know how long that would be, but not forever I guess...
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Ranger-man
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I have a Stiga premade that is about 25 years old at the minimum and I have had it in storage and it still has tons of life in it's yasaka rubbers.
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If that is the old Cobra rubber, California will slip into the Pacific before it wears out. |
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AllezCho
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lol I have an unopened Express 2 that I bought last year, since December of 2009. I haven't ever gotten a chance to glue it to a blade. If I were you, I would use those rubbers (if you can) soon because tensors are notorious for their lack of durability. It seems like all of these stories of forever-lasting rubbers are the old-school, non-tensioned rubbers. |
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Conan the Greek
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It might have to do with the materials used in the rubbers. If the rubber is natural rubber, it has a better chance of long life. Synthetic rubbers that outgasses their softeners will not keep their good playing characteristics.
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i kept a sheet of t05 for almost 5 months and it plays just safe
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sorry i meant same
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I bought some chinese rubbers from a local store in my country about a year ago, they were 50% off clearance (I guess they are old stock). Most of them were good as any new rubbers. But there were two that the glue between the rubber top and the sponge has dried up. One was separated completely (rubber and sponge), while the other only the corner was separated but with just a little pull it came apart easily, too. But the top ply of the rubber is still tacky like normal. So I glue the sponge to the bet then put glue on the sponge and the back pips of the rubber, (these are inverted rubbers) and glue them together, and they seem to work fine. I use WBG to glue them. So my conclussion is that the rubbers and sponges will keep for a long time, but the glue that hold them together might not. And I do agree about keeping the rubbers away from light and in a place that is not too wet/dry/cool/hot.
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Well, I would have to say (someone probably already said it) it depends on the rubber. I had an old DHS PF4 that was still sticky after 10 years in the closet. Then again . . . I've had some rubbers that seemed dried up upon arrival. Hard to say! In general, the sticky Chinese rubbers seem to hold up well . . . especially in most parts of China where the weather is hot and humid. Back home in CA or AZ? The rubbers will probably succumb to the same fate as the skin on my butt . . . :-(. All dried up and no place to go but the crapper!
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asimriz
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Thanks a lot everyone. Ur info helped a lot. I know that tensors rubbers get used fairly quickly than older rubbers but on the JOOLA Express series it says "Air rubber for at least 48hrs before use." Is that necessary ? I've already applied an Express One & have been using it & I don't think anything was wrong but then again I've never used JOOLA before. I've already taken out both my JOOLA Express rubbers & they're spread on my table in the basement (where it's cooler). What effect will airing them have ? Or does it mean to air them after applying them onto the blade ?
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I left the sport for 12 years. I have some new in wrapper Sriver and Bryce lying around, not sure if I should bother with them. I know they were lying around because I stopped using Sriver (so it's probably closer to 15 yrs old) for Sriver FX and I never liked Bryce, by than I was using JO Waldner and than switched to Desto F1
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My coach says the shelf life for a rubber is couple years, and he will not sell them after that, and some companies will use those rubbers to make pre-made bat or training stuff (??) He says the rubbers are still very good, just not as perfect as the new batch. Actually, I think they are just not good if you are pro, but it is fine for regular guys to use.
bbgobie, your rubbers are good, and are you planning to sell one of your sriver or Bryce :) |
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