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STIGA Offensive Classic WRB vs. CR WRB |
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ttcyfi
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Can somebody explain the difference between the OC WRB and the OC CR WRB? Which is more popular, which is better for looping etc. Which would you guys recommend?
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loop+loop
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Just get the OC CR without WRB.
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Jeff(ATTC)
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Both blades are good for looping since they both are thin and have limba top plys. The the CR coat makes the top plys a little harder, resulting in a small increase in speed. Most people seem to like the OC/CR without WRB because it was once WLQ old blade.
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Bty Jun Mizutani ZLC
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ssoro
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Does this wieght good for drive & smash, l not alwalys loop...Stiga Clipper Wood
Stiga Clipper CR WRB
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Imago
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80 is crazy light. Mine is 95 g.
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Stavros
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CR versions have a special veneer that make blades little faster and harder. Also CR versions don't splinter.
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InfinityVPS - D80 - D05
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walleyeguy7
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therer are a lot of 100g+ clippers out there that play amazing
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icontek
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WRB shifts balance to the head.
Only get the WRB if you like head heavy blades, play with 2x pips out and want a neutral balance or are going to use very light rubbers. It was designed in an age when rubbers were trending toward very light and people wanted to maintain a certain balance point. The OC CR (No WRB) is recommended if you use medium to heavy rubbers and prefer a less head heavy blade. |
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Kolev
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+1 I had to varnish all the Stiga's I had(OC,7/6,3xTube Carbo,Tube Offensive, Tube Light) |
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Jeff(ATTC)
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Bty Jun Mizutani ZLC
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icontek
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Just to clarify:
I've spent a few years using Stiga Blades and clones at a low-intermediate level and I've owned a few: (Stiga Allround Classic (2), Avalox BT550 (2), Stiga Offensive Classic (2), Virtuoso (1), Stiga Clipper (3)). After some time with the AR, I wanted something faster with better feel. The Clipper was faster and had better feel, but the additional weight and loss of control at the table were troublesome. So I spent a few months with the OC and Avalox's BT550. After that I chose the BT550 because it looped better than the AR or OC and had better feel and control at the expense of smashing. A year later, I still wanted something faster than the BT550 and tried the Clipper and OC again, as well as a Virtuoso. The comparison wasn't even close. Here's why: Overall Speed (from soft hits, passive blocks, all the way up to loopdrives) Clipper > Virtuoso >/= Offensive Classic > Avalox BT550 > Allround Classic Control (from short game all the way back to mid distance) Allround Classic > Virtuoso >/= Avalox BT550 > Offensive Classic >= Clipper Flex (from soft to big shots, more flex = easier loop, less = easier smash) Avalox BT550 > Allround Classic > Offensive Classic > Virtuoso > Clipper Hardness (also crispness) Clipper > Virtuoso > Avalox BT550 > Offensive Classic > Allround Classic Feel (hand feedback, signal to noise ratio of vibrations) Virtuoso > Clipper > Avalox BT550 > Allround Classic > Offensive Classic Build Quality (materials and finish) Virtuoso > Avalox BT550 > Clipper > Offensive Classic >= Allround Classic I've come to one conclusion: If you want a blade that plays between the Allround Classic and the Clipper in terms of power and control, don't buy an Offensive Classic, buy a Virtuoso. |
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lilactime031
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Virtuoso is a good blade but its throw angle is low so is very difficult to loop against fast and heavy backspin pushes The Off CR without WRB is a very good blade and it oops better than the simple Offensive Classic |
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lilactime031
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...but for looping TUBE series are the best...
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icontek
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Funny that you mention that. I've only played it with H3 Neo and (mostly) Acuda S3. Both rubbers have a higher trajectory/throw. Flipping underspin with the backhand is easy and driving underspin with the FH is equally easy. The crispness of the Virtuoso makes it far better for smashing than the Avalox BT550 and Stiga Allround and at least on par with the Offensive Classic. Like all blades, certain rubbers can balance or compliment it's characteristics. |
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johnny89atc
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Like icotek said I don't have problems with the throw of Virtuoso which I don't find low, but lower than my previous blade (Allround Evolution). Although it has lower throw than the Allround Evolution it is easier to loop underspin (because it's faster I suppose) and the most important difference is that the Virtuoso is more consistent. What I mean is that if I make the same move I will have the same shot with the Virtuoso. With the Allround Evolution some loops had higher arc and some lower and I couldn't understand why (I guess that the sweet spot has something to do with this).
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Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr
FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
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Jeff(ATTC)
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I just had a hit with an OC/CR WRB last night and it's feel was completely different from my Clipper CR/WRB. The OC had a hollow feel with lots of vibration, it felt like an earthquake was moving up my arm, but that's good, because I'm getting feedback from the ball. More control compared to the clipper; I had more time to move my blocks around.
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Bty Jun Mizutani ZLC
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Thot
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Which one from the TUBE series? I was thinking at TUBE CARBO, but it I'm looking for OFF- blades, not OFF+. In fact I don't mind if it's a fast blade as long is controllable in the short game. I tried OC CR, but it vibrates too much, otherwise is pretty good. |
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johnny89atc
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From the Tube series I think that the Tube Light is Off-. |
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Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr
FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
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