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If all these ZLC blades have Limba or even double Limba outer plys then you have your reason. It makes a great feeling blade and great for most players but it's not hard enough for the modern style at that kind of pro level. But it's important to remember what is good for the best players in the world doesn't have much relationship to what is best for most people.

If you go back in time a bit till the 1970's there you will see a game at the professional level that is much more like the game you see in clubs today, that's the stuff most people should be using


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Originally posted by bluebucket bluebucket wrote:

If all these ZLC blades have Limba or even double Limba outer plys then you have your reason. It makes a great feeling blade and great for most players but it's not hard enough for the modern style at that kind of pro level. But it's important to remember what is good for the best players in the world doesn't have much relationship to what is best for most people.

If you go back in time a bit till the 1970's there you will see a game at the professional level that is much more like the game you see in clubs today, that's the stuff most people should be using
 
But that was also the 38mm ball.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/page2/
 

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ZLC ??
ZLF?
 
That's definitely an IF ZLC.
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

I personally think that a lot of pros that supposedly use carbon blades really use wood.  It comes down to simple economics.  If you're, say, yasaka, and you pay wang hao and ma lin for sponsorship for example.  Do you want them to continue to use a $40 extra, or are you going to have them switch their handles to a new $100+ carbon blade?


This has always been a popular theory. So far the only confirmed story I heard was of Warner Schlager (Primorac Carbon with Schlager handle). Other than that, it's all speculation.
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Hung Tzu Hsiang of Taiwan uses ZLF, i don't so many penholders play Butterfly composite 


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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/page2/
 

MATTENET A-6534.jpg

ZLC ??
ZLF?
 
That's definitely an IF ZLC.
 
OH I see; I thought we were talking about the Timo Boll series ( ZLC = blue handle) and I thought that the handle that mattenet is holding in the picture above looked like more a TB ZLF like this one
But you right: after research I figured mattenet plays an Innerforce ZLC. thanks.
 
Thanks for the ittf photo page, now we can all see what the pros are using.
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Originally posted by bonggoy bonggoy wrote:

Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

I personally think that a lot of pros that supposedly use carbon blades really use wood.  It comes down to simple economics.  If you're, say, yasaka, and you pay wang hao and ma lin for sponsorship for example.  Do you want them to continue to use a $40 extra, or are you going to have them switch their handles to a new $100+ carbon blade?


This has always been a popular theory. So far the only confirmed story I heard was of Warner Schlager (Primorac Carbon with Schlager handle). Other than that, it's all speculation.
 
 
Sure, and it will always be...that's by design that they don't just TELL you.  But it's hard for me to believe that the two afformentioned players just went to carbon overnight suddenly when they got sponsored.
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ittfworld/page2/
 

MATTENET A-6534.jpg

ZLC ??
ZLF?
 
That's definitely an IF ZLC.
 
OH I see; I thought we were talking about the Timo Boll series ( ZLC = blue handle) and I thought that the handle that mattenet is holding in the picture above looked like more a TB ZLF like this one
But you right: after research I figured mattenet plays an Innerforce ZLC. thanks.
 
Thanks for the ittf photo page, now we can all see what the pros are using.

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