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Rack 
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 Topic: Tenergy ShrinkingPosted: 08/13/2011 at 2:53am |
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So my sheet of Tenergy 64 shrunk after I took it off for a little while. It was not rolled on with alot of pressure and DHS VOC free glue was used. Wanted to see what method everyone uses to re-expand the thing.
Current options are...
1) Haifu Speed Glue (might ruin the thing if I go this route)
2) Can buy some baby oil or paraffin oil
3) Force the thing on with more pressure on the roller
4) Leave it shrunken as is (kind of an eyesore)
Any other better options anyone can think of? Edited by Rack - 08/13/2011 at 2:58am |
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 3:50am |
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I noticed the shrinkage with 2 sheets of 05FX. The sheets actually pulled back from the edge of the blades 1/8".
I used ordinary shack (rubber cement) to reglue which caused it to expand. But now 10 days later, it is shrinking again. To be fair, my blade is extremely smooth so has low adhesiveness.
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 3:56am |
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1 will not work. I use that glue and it does not expand much, if at all.
2 will work but will significantly change the original properties of the rubber, for the worse in my opinion 3 will not work and there is no glue that is strong enough to hold it now 4 may be an eyesore, but has the benefit of being the easiest solution and will be most effective. I recently purchased a used T05 that looks ridiculous on my Primorac, but plays incredibly, and I rly don't care about looks. |
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tabletennistips
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 5:09am |
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is the rubber new or old ???
if new then try to fix it
if old bin it and get new one
thems the breaks my freind
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 11:07am |
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I used paraffin oil to expand a T05 and make it fit my paddle. It works well considering it is 22 months old. The parafin oil didn't affect the play at all but I didn't use that much paraffin oil. I used just enough to expand the T05 so it fit.
I had another sheet of T05 that was torn and I experimented on it. I put on a LOT of paraffin oil on the T05 and didn't put the paraffin oil on evenly and it was easy to see that the part with more parafin oil 'domed' more than the other part of the rubber. After a week the 'domed' T05 lost its dome and when back to normal size. |
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 4:32pm |
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It's about 3-4 months old but not really heavy use so its in great condition still. Won't be binning it for sure. Looks like a light coating of PO is my best bet or just leaving it. Edited by Rack - 08/13/2011 at 4:32pm |
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cheah
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 9:18pm |
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Use Free Chack.
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 9:38pm |
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Tenergy shrinks over time, no doubt about it. Seems to shrink faster off a blade than on. So do many other rubbers like Palio Blitz and Palio PME. That's why I cut mine with a thick "edge guard" type of edge tape on the blade so it starts out slightly over-sized. I also store such rubbers in a ziplock bag and under a few heavy books.. seems to help.
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 10:01pm |
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speed glue it
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pnachtwey
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 11:08pm |
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Do you cut the rubber before gluing? If so, how much of a margin to you leave? 1mm? I have always glued first and then cut to the rubber to the shape of the blade but I have had problems with T05 shrinking. I have two sheets of T05 waiting to be applied but i want to do it right when I apply these rubbers as they are too expensive to screw up. |
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Posted: 08/13/2011 at 11:47pm |
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1. Use some very thin oil as a primer, say, lamp oil. 2. Apply a known expander, e.g., BTY Millennium Chack.
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Posted: 08/14/2011 at 11:59pm |
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Posted: 08/15/2011 at 9:06am |
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My option (actually what I always do):
My Xiom Stradivarius measures 157x150, exactly the same head size of BTY blades. However when I cut a new sheet for this blade I NEVER use it. I prefer to cut the rubber on a Donic Burn, which is larger (158x152).
Unfortunately Tenergy 64 has this awful problem of shrinking.
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Posted: 08/15/2011 at 11:55am |
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Does anyone know the BTY Free Chack Glue will cause Tenergy Shrinking?
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Posted: 08/15/2011 at 12:21pm |
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Posted: 08/15/2011 at 12:36pm |
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Posted: 08/15/2011 at 3:41pm |
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Thanks Billyc. |
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Posted: 08/15/2011 at 4:47pm |
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Tenergy and the other rubbers shrink with or without glue. All the shrinkage I observed was with non-VOC gluesheets. Again, it tends to shrink the most when stored off of a blade.
Edited by nathanso - 08/15/2011 at 4:47pm |
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Posted: 08/16/2011 at 6:19pm |
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Speed Glue it. It should expand little to fit paddle. After 2-3 days, speed glue effect wear out. You will have perfectly fit normal Ten. (till you peel it off paddle again.)
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Posted: 08/16/2011 at 10:34pm |
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Beg to differ. It does cause T shrinking and is difficult to peel off from the sponge. The only way not to ruin your tenergy with BTY Free Chack is to glue it once and forever.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 at 6:36am |
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Tenergy can be restretched pretty well with any oil. Paraffin absorbs the quickest on the sponge, though. Then, you can use oil on the topsheet to get the rubber to flatten. I had one that had shrunk so much, I had to repeat the process twice. Interestingly, it played amazing.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 at 10:13am |
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MIND YOU DON'T BOOST THE TENERGY RUBBER.
http://rubbertechnology.info/en/products/cellular-rubber/ Tenergy's Spring Sponge is factually a pressurized closed-cell rubber, Once you treat the sponge with some oil compaunds, you will get the air contained to drain out of the cell, thus causing the cell to shrink down and the whole sponge sheet to soften. After couple of the treatments, you are sure to have your Tenergy totally unplayable. That is that..... DON'T OIL/ SPEED GLUE ON THE "CLOSE CELL" RUBBER, NEVER YOU DARE !!! |
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Posted: 09/26/2012 at 10:38am |
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IMHO, all of these expensive rubbers shrink. Trick is don't remove them.
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Posted: 09/26/2012 at 8:17pm |
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I agree with this. Tried it once and it felt like mush after a treatment with Bio Booster. I think it plays much better au naturel. |
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Posted: 09/26/2012 at 10:28pm |
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[QUO
TE=tsanyc]IMHO, all of these expensive rubbers shrink. Trick is don't remove them.[/QUOTE]
+2......And do not use a roller when putting on a new sheet! Use hand pressure only.
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