the best pips for chopping closing the table?

I want know that pips rubbers are good for chopping closing the table on BH. Too I want htting or blocking sometimes but especially for chopping near of the table.

Now I use Hallmark Panther 2.0mm.

802-1 is a good option?
and TSP Curl P1-R?
TSP Curl P-H?
TSP Curl P2?

My game is of attack on FH and deffense on BH (chopping or hitting).


Edited by scdit46 - 12/18/2011 at 5:01pm

No don't get TSP P1r. That is great for chopping away from the table but not close. Get a sheet of Grass D.tecs OX. But don't expect to master it over night. It is a rough LP to tame. Make sure you use it on a nice control type bat. Or it might be too fast to handle. Practice with it for about 3 months before you say yes or no.

755 0X has nice smooth pips that are flat on top. It allows you to get lots of reversal with blocks but you can also hit with it and get predictable results because the tops of the pips are so flat. Other LP will have a little more grip on top to allow you to create a little bit of spin on flat balls, but you lose a little reversal and a little predictability on attacks with grippier pips.

The difficulty in switching to LP's is that although people say they are spin-insensitive, you still have to know what spin you're dealing with because against backspin you have to push hard (or even just smack, you can attack backspin pretty easily with LP by just hitting it hard and straight) but against topspin you will need to block or chop.

On BH I like pips with sponge (1.5, 1.8 or 2.0mm) for chopping near of table and hitting.
Is  possible this rubber? I don´t like the pips OX or  thin sponge.


Some TSP Curl?

Now I play with Hallmark Panther 2.0mm on BH.

I need help!

The best pips for playing close to the table are frictionless long pips.  Take a regular OX sheet of cheap $5 long pips and put them under a heat lamp for a few days or on your windshield during the summer for a couple weeks and you'll have a very slow long pip that reacts unlike what anyone is expecting.

It's illegal and cheating, but as pushblocker and roundrobin have pointed out numerous times, it's impossible to prove with absolute certainty in a tournament - so you can get away with it.

I think 802 1.5mm would work well.   I chop, block, top spin and flat hit close to the table with my 802.
Reflectoid 1mm works well for some. For some reason it doesn't for me but a person I play against chops with Reflectoid it all the time. These are difficult to lift.   He attacks with Reflectoid too. I know it isn't pips.
It is easy to chop at the table with anti.   I would bother trying it with the more frictionless antis though.
755 1mm works too.
I chop with my hard bat rubbers. Hard bat rubbers don't get enough spin but they are easy to learn with. Hard bat is what got me started chopping in real matches.
I have played with all the above and more but these are my choice for close to the table chopping.

I just got back from the TT club. I played an experience LP player with new Grass Dtecs on his BH and Raystorm II on the FH.   I was playing with my Ball Whacker ( Samsonov Alpha+T05+802 1.5mm )

I had few problems if the LP player just chopped. I could either chop back or attack with top spin with my 802. The LP couldn't get enough spin and the ball came back too slow so I had time to react. 0X LP simply doesn't have the same bite as Reflectoid 1mm or Tibhar Super Defense when it comes to chopping.

Frictionless pips are good but around where I play everyone seems to figure out how to play against them unless the LP player attacks.   Then LPs are difficult to play against.

I have 3 LP paddle myself so I was able to play against the LPs without making too many mental errors.

About aging rubbers.   I bet it is the UV rays in sunlight that does it.   I should find out.   I have access to a UV lamp that is used to cure glues.   It has all sorts of warnings about looking at the lamp so the UV part must be intense. I have thought about putting a sheet of 804 anti under the lamp to make it closer to frictionless. It would be a very cheap but good anti then. Anti rubbers can be frictionless.   I could try it with Pogo too just because it is cheap and sort of close to frictionless already.

cotdt wrote: Should there be sponge or no sponge for close-to-table chopping? Short pips or long pips?

For close to the table/ over the table chopping the ideal is no sponge. Check out some of DR Neubauers videos on youtube. That's why I recommend Globe 979 OX. For $10 it won't brake the bank.

scdit46 wrote: Weixing plays with TSP Curl P1-R 1.5mm!!!! Curl P1-R 1.5mm or Curl P2 1.8mm is a good option for chopping near to table? I like the chopping near to table and sometimes hitting. I like the pips with sponge. I need your help! What rubber is better for me? thanks!

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