Variation of spin?

Hey everyone, especially defenders out there :) 

chopchopslam wrote: Use long pips. The incoming spin is more important than your stroke,

BS! If you add sponge to your LP, which most choppers do, then your own stroke is every bit as important as the incoming spin.

To create spin variation, chop with different speed of the arm.

Nah there's plenty of LP choppers without sponge -- put it on a not-too-slow blade and it's no problem.

The guy asked specifically about JSH, a no-sponge chopper.


Edited by chopchopslam - 02/15/2012 at 2:32pm

Hmmm our Pro's Equipment thread is wrong then... it claims he uses Grass Dtecs 0X.

Speedplay wrote: chopchopslam wrote: Use long pips. The incoming spin is more important than your stroke, BS! If you add sponge to your LP, which most choppers do, then your own stroke is every bit as important as the incoming spin. To create spin variation, chop with different speed of the arm.

+1 Even for OX choppers, what they do matters a great amount.

Edited by chopchopslam - 02/16/2012 at 9:40am

Swiff wrote: So most would agree that the attacker basically controls the spin throughout the point?

We use hard bats for chopping when practicing 'lifting' chopped balls.   The hard bat can change the spin just enough to make the looper be careful when looping the next ball.   At the club I can chop with my hard bat and make those under 1200 miss easily and I am not a good chopper.  We simply take turns chopping to help the other looper.

freez009 wrote: Thanks for the info every one. But that didnt exactly answer the question. I use a feint long II of 0.5 mm, i am consistent with my chopping alot but i still havent learnt how to vary spin using my feint long. Okay for example  1) A very fast loop/ kill shot, how to stop this and vary spin according to heavy back spin and second less topspin. 2) Slow spinny topspin, how to stop this and vary spin according to heavy back spin and second less topspin. SO basically how can i produce heavy backspin and less back spin or a no spin or topspin ball. Oh and how do feint long II and p 1 r compare to each other.

1) Chop hard and straight down to get max underspin with a slow return. If you want a deep and low underspin ball, chop down and forward. This will still give you lots of spin, but will give you more speed and push the ball deeper into their court. If you decelerate during your chop so that you're almost just blocking the ball by the time you make contact, then you'll give them less backspin. This works great if they're able to loop your max underspinners back. With only a .5mm sponge, I doubt you're going to be able to change the spin to topspin unless you are hitting the ball from WAY off the table. That's a really tough shot to control too.

2) A slow spinny topspin is a great ball for a modern defender because there are so many things you can do against it. You can block it at the peak to give a medium backspin back to them, but aim low because your ball is going to float a long way. You can let it fall and chop it hard and try to give them more spin than they can handle. My favorite response to a slow topspin is to run around it and attack with my FH. I aim for the bottom of the net and drive it.