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debraj 
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 Posted: 09/20/2012 at 2:04pm |
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My 1Q-XD has arrived.
It is not as hard as their literature claims. Rather just like Aurus or may be a little softer than Aurus. The topsheet is borderline tacky/grippy... and it has the wobbly sponge too. But i got it in red. thinking i will use BF m1 black FH. But now i am thinking of using BF M2 red on BH. SO I HAVE THE 1Q-XD UP FOR SALE, UNCUT. Will sell it for $40+ shipping... or $43 including shipping. anyone interested can PM me.
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 09/20/2012 at 6:56pm |
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got only a few hits with M1 and i felt the XD is harder. I still say the XD is harder than Aurus regular. i have to take in account that i used a stiga eb 7 on both
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neon
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Posted: 09/21/2012 at 3:37am |
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Hello friends, so debraj, no test with 1qxd. At least tale us weigh of uncut rubber sheet. Thank you. |
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debraj
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Posted: 09/21/2012 at 1:59pm |
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neon... huh!!.... i don't know so confused... whether to use M1 or M2 on BH, ....and whether to use M1 or 1Q-XD on FH. but definitely not M1 on both sides. i will take the weight and let you guys know.
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neon
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Posted: 09/21/2012 at 2:22pm |
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Hello friends, m1 on forehand, m2 on backhand I think. New mega rubbers are so heavy. Rasant, m1, q1xd, s1turbo and so on. Cut to butterfly head size they are about 49-50 grams! This is unheard!!! To compare ... bryce hard cut to butterfly head size weigh 45 grams!!!! 10 grams heavier racket!! Thank you. |
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debraj
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Posted: 09/21/2012 at 3:22pm |
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Neon, i don' know..but i have tried to put this point so many times in this forum and nobody listens or verifies.
ITTF rule allows for the rubbers to be pasted a little higher leaving a little space from the top of thehandle. It can be so little that even with it you can keep your finger on the rubber without feeling any wood.... or it can be a little more where you keep your finger entirely on wood (which gives better ball feedback). But either of the two ways... you reduce your total racket weight significantly... given these heavy rubbers.....even just a 2 mm strip reduction is significant (you may not even feel it with your finger) but anyway, bottomline... i have stopped worrying about rubber weight.. once and for ever. :) i do take care to balance my racket evenly though.. making sure the center og gravity lies just above my middle finger when i hold the racket.
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debraj
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Posted: 10/03/2012 at 5:04am |
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My Review of Tibhar 1Q-XD based on only 2 days play (FH and BH). So its nothing near to complete... and i reserve the right to go back on any of the statements i make, if i feel so later.
 Set-up Rutis with 1Q-XD red and Bluefire M1 Black, both Max. Appearance: These new generation topsheets are best described as "tacky plastic" than grippy rubber. But i absolutely love them. Same in 1Q-XD as in Bluefire M1. The best feature seems to be that unlike older tensors, thei grip dont deteriorate at all!! Spongewise i was a little surprised... because i expected it to be porous sponge like Bluefire. But no!... its a irregular Aurus like sponge. Hardness is same as Aurus by pressing.. but feels softer while playing. Playability: I don't know why people use H3 NEO ...because it has same grip level as a 2 week old black H3 Neo... but higher grip than a red H3 Neo. And playability is 10 times better, same low throw.. same consistent shots, but better feel, better spin and better power....and no time to break in. The feel of 1Q-XD is unique.. it feels like (and excuse my lack of expression) as if the rubber vibrates like a tuning fork while hitting the ball. short heavily damped thick vibration....like THANNNNNN. Throw: It is lower throw than Bluefire M1, but not as low as Aurus... (and probably high throw if you compare with Thors or Tenzone) Speed: Boy! it is fast... and fast for a reason... a great satisfaction in hitting and brush looping over the table. but not as forgiving on counterlooping close-mid. You can drive from close mid position.. or take a step back and loop.....at least at my level. I counterloop better with bluefire... but i counterdrive better with 1Q-XD. 1Q-XD is improved Aurus. Spin: On BH opening loops... this is THE SPINNIEST RUBBER i played with till date. Big claim!!... but thats what it is now. Previous day i played BF m1 on BH... and was surprised that a 2150 player misreading the spin everytime. Today i did the same thing against a different 2100 player... and it came to a point where when i looped, and the ball was in air this guy was shouting ... "tell me man tell me man.. what do i do?" Its his modesty... because he is much better player than me. but will give you some idea about the whirling spin on opening loops. And yes openning loops were not that fast... i think BF generated more speed on opening loops, while this 1Q-XD generates more speed on counterloops, drives, flats. Spin on away from table counterloop was way higher than Tenergy 05. Again pl read "away from table" ..not mid distance. In away from table loops Tenergy 05 bottoms out.. and doesn't generate that much spin...as per my experience. Looping: For the hardness i would say it loops rather well... way better than H3...but softer rubbers like Tenergy and Bluefire M1 are more forgiving on counterloops. Pushes: normally pushes with hard rubbers are easy to execute and has less tendency to pop up balls. But 1Q-XD has some bounciness in spite of being hard sponged....and hence once in a while i popped up pushes without realizing. On BH... who cares pushes when you can loop virtually everything over the table???? Serves: Nothing special... good spin. I missed a few serves due to bouncines. Blocks: Aha!!! i had tried this rubber on Day 1 in my FH. But in BH i had trouble blocking with Bluefire M1. Now today i used the same paddle reversing the sides. And Voila!! It is magnificient in blocks... and opening loops. Wow. i can block passively or actively .. (with BF M1 only active block) and an control my hand movement to determine whether i want the return short or long. Very good in blocking. Hitting Never had so much fun hitting with a "rubber". With saucepan yes!! ha ha kidding!! that's exaggeration.. but this rubber is in league of Acuda S1 when it comes to hitting. Overall Based on Day 2... i think i would love to use this rubber on my BH... but will probably buy 2.0, and not max. Very good offering for Tibhar... and if Tibhar was a Chinese company, chinese national team would have swapped hurricane 3 for this rubber. :) ... Edited by debraj - 10/03/2012 at 5:14am |
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stefashka
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Posted: 10/03/2012 at 5:27am |
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What about short game? CNT won't give up H3 because of its short game abilities, not because DHS is a Chinese company.
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debraj
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Posted: 10/03/2012 at 12:50pm |
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True it may be marginally different from H3 in short game, but it still better than bumpy rubbers like Tenergy etc. Since some pros (including chinese) play tenergy 05 FH, i would assume 1Q-XD stands a better chance.
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Posted: 10/04/2012 at 12:42am |
Could you do any comparison against regular 1q? Everything but the woobbly feel is what i am a little curious about in xD .
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debraj
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Posted: 10/04/2012 at 2:28am |
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i haven't played 1Q yet... but one of my clubmates ordered... and when he gets it i will.
don't pay too much attention to the feel expression... thats my creative thinking.... your mileage may vary. but noones mileage will vary with the amount of spin in generates on BH bannana loop, against underspin.
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debraj
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Posted: 10/05/2012 at 2:01pm |
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I'm still saying the same thing about 1Q-XD on Bh. more precisely.
- Whiiiirrrrrrrrlllllling spin on opening brush loops from BH, completely disregarding the incoming spin. - Great blocks. passive or active. (doesn't it sound contradicting to the above statement? yes i thought so too. but i stand by it.) - very nice pentration when i'm twiddling it to FH side, to smash lobbed balls.
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debraj
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Posted: 10/19/2012 at 1:26pm |
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I am having my best days in table tennis life... with this rubber.... after playing for a month... i'm convinced that this rubber will make it real big someday.. when more people with appropriate style tries it out.
As of now this is my final BH rubber on Rutis. just incredible !!!
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Posted: 11/26/2012 at 3:18pm |
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okay here comes the news.....
JZ... the owner of tabletennisonly and best player in sacramento area, adopted 1Q_XD as his FH rubber, moving from H3 national. He sent me a thank you note for suggesting this, with a great comparison with H3 National. And he is ordering another sheet for back up. I think this forum need to discover this rubber... its as good as it gets. :) i will try to post JZ's short review, if he allows. |
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Posted: 11/26/2012 at 8:36pm |
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nice! what i like about the xd is that even if its not as spinny as the 5Q, it is still spinny on serves and pushes in my bh
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debraj
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Posted: 11/27/2012 at 1:04pm |
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actually i find it very spinny at higher gear.... even JZ told me the same.
unlike soft rubbers spin kicks in kicks in late.. but loops and drives are hands down spinnier than most rubbers.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 1:46am |
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in slower gears the 5Q is spinnier and easier to spin
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Posted: 05/25/2013 at 5:41pm |
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I ordered 1Q XD for my FH for the next league season, here my initial impressions after trying it untuned for 2 hours.
As Debraj pointed out, it is not as hard as you would think, it is indeed a bit softer than regular Aurus. Between Evolution EL-P And MX-P. Speedwise it is a little faster than Aurus on power shots but the looping technique it allows you to use is different. It is like a version of Aurus that is geared towards mid distance looping while - to me - Aurus is better close to the table. |
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Posted: 01/21/2015 at 6:41pm |
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how to compare 1q xd to mx-p as regard weight,spin,speed ,control,pushing,....etc?
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Posted: 01/21/2015 at 7:27pm |
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It is the fastest rubber I have used. a bit more top end speed than even T64. Great for pure hitters but loops nice from mid distance. |
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