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Mark H 
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 Topic: Good Non-tensor rubbersPosted: 11/29/2012 at 9:24am |
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i was just wondering about the rubbers out there that are good, but are not tensors. I really dislike the feel of tensors for some reason.. probably because of its bounciness.
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Blade: Timo Boll Spirit AN
FH: Black Renanos Hold 2.1 mm BH: Red Renanos Hold 2.1 mm |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 9:34am |
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Stiga Calibra, Joola Phenix... I'm assuming you aren't into Chinese rubbers.... Edited by NextLevel - 11/29/2012 at 9:35am |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 9:37am |
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Isn't Calibra a tensor rubber?
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 9:40am |
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Roundell and bryce
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The Shakehander
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 9:47am |
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mark v, Sriver, illumina
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stefashka
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 10:10am |
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Tenergy/Calibra/Evolution are not Tensors, but they are built using the same principles, so they are quite similar to Tensors TSP Agrit is not Tensor, never found a review, but it's supposed to be a good rubber because it's TSP  TSP Brio is good, much better than unglued Mendo for sure  Xiom Musa is a great BH rubber, much better than unglued Mendo for sure  Haifu Shark is a great BH rubber (very popular in China Euro-style rubber) DHS Tin/Gold Arcs are great and definitely less bouncy than Tensors You can also consider Palio rubbers on Biotech sponge, they can be good (better than unglued Mendo), but to a certain level.
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Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α
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Mark H
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 10:13am |
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I'm not against tacky rubbers, but only if they aren't really heavy.. haha. I just don't like their weight.
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Blade: Timo Boll Spirit AN
FH: Black Renanos Hold 2.1 mm BH: Red Renanos Hold 2.1 mm |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 10:24am |
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Xiom Musa and DHS Tin Arc are both excellent modern non-tensors.
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This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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The Shakehander
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 10:24am |
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The word "Tensor" has become the "generic" descriptive for modern post-tuned sheets. Most people would catergorize all modern tuned sheets as being "Tensor". There are many players who don't bother about specific "patents".
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 10:40am |
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Stiga Boost TC.
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InfinityVPS - D80 - D05
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 12:14pm |
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I will only put relatively cheap rubbers here as I do not feel you have to spend more than 20-30 dollars per rubber unless you are a 2100+ player.
Giant Dragon Karate (Hard, Soft) - Hard 2.2 is a bit too heavy so I recommend 2.0 or 1.8 mm; Soft could be any thickness Air Illumina (especially Red in 2.2) is a nice rubber with some good OFF- speed) LKT Rapid Speed, Palio CJ8000 Light & Fast: if you want it to be a little tacky Sword Backoff 2000-F on purple sponge - very good offensive rubber on any OFF blade with harder outers (I recommend it for BH as well) |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 12:25pm |
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From modern rubbers Tibhar Nianmor is not bouncy, same as Nittaku Nodias A-1 (but these are not that powerful) . Chinese rubbers like Tibhar Grip Europe and Donic Traction might bring you joy.
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danhs
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 12:28pm |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 1:44pm |
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Nittaku Renanos Hold. Great Rubber.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 1:51pm |
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If you dislike bounce you will love Palio Thors (FH). Like playing with a grippy brick but oh so good.
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Mark H
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 1:56pm |
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Jim, that's a good point. I'm around 1500 and I don't think i would be able to use the high end rubbers very well to justify purchasing it. So yeah if you guys could limit your suggestions to rubber under 40 dollars that would be great. And please don't mention rubbers with terrible durability
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Blade: Timo Boll Spirit AN
FH: Black Renanos Hold 2.1 mm BH: Red Renanos Hold 2.1 mm |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 2:01pm |
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+ + + Nittaku Renanos Hold.Katapult as Nittaku Narucross EX Hard/ harder tenzor38-39 DHS /, rotation comparable to T05,
speed=T64 . Unfortunately harder rubber. Attention-look solid blade
Edited by nikk64 - 11/29/2012 at 2:11pm |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 2:01pm |
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Sriver and Mark V are still very consistent, non-tensors out there
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 2:05pm |
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Edited by nikk64 - 11/29/2012 at 2:10pm |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 2:50pm |
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Mark V its bouncy :),its really depend on what blade you will put it
Palio thor actuallu its quite good rubber,very good for close to the table |
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 3:02pm |
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Nittaku Renanos Hold. Excellent non-Tensor, Japanese rubber. Reasonably priced considering its performance.
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Mark H
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 3:41pm |
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Some of you are suggesting renanos hold. I guess that is really something i should look into. Any thoughts on its durability?
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 3:44pm |
Durability is better than Tensors, for sure. Not indestructible like some Chinese rubbers, but still very good. I've never observed any chipping around the edges or even marks on the rubber from repeated use. The only time I've damaged it was when I hit the table so hard that it also damaged my blade. But not many rubbers can survive a collision like that without something to show for it. |
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The Shakehander
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 4:18pm |
Thors is a "tensor" type rubber... 729 blue sponge i would like to add to this list...now that's pretty much a tacky brick come to think of it i have a yasaka blade with 729 max both sides and i think they haven't died yet
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Posted: 11/29/2012 at 4:31pm |
I certainly hope you are right. I just ordered one couple days ago. There are some discussions about it here: http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=20678&hilit=agrit |
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Posted: 11/30/2012 at 1:40am |
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yeah, I'm pretty sure thors is a tensor
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Posted: 11/30/2012 at 1:47am |
+1 Absolutely, positively, without question. Thor's is a Tensor. A harder "different" Tensor, but a Tensor nonetheless. |
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Posted: 11/30/2012 at 6:01am |
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My all-time favourite is TSP X´S F1 21. It gives an excellent control, specially when blocking.
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