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    Posted: 07/01/2013 at 9:59am
I received a sheet of DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial #20 sponge 38° for free along with an order I made. Although I was rather happy with this, something caught my attention that was a tad bit concerning. 
The top sheet didn't look like other DHS rubbers I've owned, Hurricane 3s in particular. I expected a flat dull sort of shine to the top sheet but it looked like this.
http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/Johnnydp/media/h31_zps6a531479.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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Looks great. From where do you get it ?
Did you play with it ? How does it feel when comparing to regular H3 ?

I am almost sure it is boosted because rubbers edge curl up. Did you do that or it was factory tuned?



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I got it for free with an order from ttnpp.com shhh :P
I boosted it myself with DianChi. I haven't had a chance to play with it properly yet, I will in the next day or two. I have had a hit with a non serious player and by the basic feel of it, it seems quicker than regular H3 of course and seems to generate more speed and spin at a lower rate of effort if that makes sense. I'll post an update once I play with it. Mind you, I am an amateur player and can only describe this to a certain extent.

Edited by Johnny.d.p - 07/02/2013 at 9:17am
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I have just boosted my skyline3 with DianChi.  Looks really similar.  It plays great.  I have boosted in the past on commerical and provincial H3, looks just like that.  I am impressed that ttnpp give you a sheet for free.  That is really cool.

You have a Bty blade with that rubber?  That may be a bit fast.

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well looks normal to me. anytime you boost the sponge stretches the top sheet as itself stretches thus is why you see all the pips..

also i wonder if hes going to give me a free sheet. i jsut dumped 230 USd into that place


Edited by decoi - 07/01/2013 at 7:08pm
Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao
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I'm using the rubber on a Butterfly Ishlion. I had a 10 minute hit today, will have a couple hits for a couple hours in the next few days. 
In comparison to DHS NEO TG2 Skyline commercial (because I have this on another blade (Stiga Tube Aluminium) and it is somewhat similar to DHS NEO H3 commercial) the DHS H3 Prov boosted is quicker and has more spin as well as being more explosive.
Serving, the H3 is able to apply much more speed and spin with ease. Even after being boosted, the rubber maintains its control.
Over the table, against short serves, I am able to flick a lot easier compared to TG2. The H3, being more explosive acts similarly to modern tensor rubbers and pretty much throws the ball across the table. The H3 is also very capable of pushing against serves to pretty much any position with speed and control. I still have yet to have more hits and a chance to have more of a feel for the rubber.
The speed may be different due to blade difference but compared to the NEO H3 commercial I just used on this blade, the same differences apply.
I will post another update soon.

Edited by Johnny.d.p - 07/02/2013 at 12:58am
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Update:
1st training session. 
The H3 is very quick and is able to drive balls at a slightly lower hitting angle with same stroke and power. When looping, the 'Hurricane sound' is more consistent compared to NEO H3 commercial. Short game pushing is similar to commercial H3, still places very well and fairly easily. Blocking is quite good, very controllable and is also easy to counterloop with heavy and/or little spin. Overall, the boosted H3 feels like a tacky version of a modern tensor rubber.
If anyone wants to find out any extra information about the rubber in play in any particular area please say so and I will do my best to test it.

Edited by Johnny.d.p - 07/02/2013 at 8:03am
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The provincial and national versions of DHS rubbers tend to have a more mirror like topsheet than the commercial ones do for some reason.  They also seem to be easier to keep clean (breath and hand-wipe usually can remove all dust and ball marks whereas commercial versions would need water/sponge/cleaner to get the same kind of effect, and even then sometimes it wouldn't totally come clean).

I had a similar experience with both provincial neo (39deg) and classic national (white package) versions of hurricane 3.
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Agreed. It might be because of the quality of the rubber. I've still to test the H3 National which I will glue next year. I am going to boost it and if it really is better than provincial, oh goody!
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Yes most provincial and up graded rubber stays "nice" looking for longer. Once you have seen a good sheet you can pick them out on looks alone. On the other hand you sometimes get commercial sheets which are of that quality. The difference being sometimes instead of always. The difference in performance is very little despite the looks so I just buy commercial as it performs 95% as well
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I really do not have so much of an understanding of difference between the performance. I had a NEO H3 commercial that I played with for a couple weeks then changed to boosted H3 provincial. In my opinion, being boosted, there is no realistic way of feeling for true difference in performance.
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Sure but if you played them both without booster or both with booster you would see there isn't much difference
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Idk, personally I'd rather spend the extra 10 bucks on provinical so that i do get the nice ones every time. Realistically though, especially if you boost, the commercial are about the same. Hell, buy a 5 dollar sheet of 729 OEM and boost it, you have magic. 
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Imo the old topsheet hurricanes and skylines are better the new topsheets just lack feel and that extra grip
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Originally posted by decoi decoi wrote:

Imo the old topsheet hurricanes and skylines are better the new topsheets just lack feel and that extra grip

i think you shouldnt just discard them, they are more forgiving in my opinion which isnt quite nice
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true but it really depends on personal preference and experience.  ive only either used h3 or tg3 on fh for the last 4-5 years . the new topsheets have this weird feeling as between ball and rubber. because of previously said reasons
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How many layers of waterbased glue and dianchi booster that you had put on the sponge?..
Then, now many days you left the rubber before attached it to your blade?
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Originally posted by Johnny.d.p Johnny.d.p wrote:

I received a sheet of DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial #20 sponge 38° for free along with an order I made. Although I was rather happy with this, something caught my attention that was a tad bit concerning. 
The top sheet didn't look like other DHS rubbers I've owned, Hurricane 3s in particular. I expected a flat dull sort of shine to the top sheet but it looked like this.
http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/Johnnydp/media/h31_zps6a531479.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2

johnny, where did you get yours? i usually see fakes but yours looks real. my sheet also looks like that. (the fake ones have this flat, dull look like this http://www.pingpongboard.com/images/qwb_image2122554232142.JPG) (too bad to the guy who bought "provincial". it's a fake)
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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

Originally posted by Johnny.d.p Johnny.d.p wrote:

I received a sheet of DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial #20 sponge 38° for free along with an order I made. Although I was rather happy with this, something caught my attention that was a tad bit concerning. 
The top sheet didn't look like other DHS rubbers I've owned, Hurricane 3s in particular. I expected a flat dull sort of shine to the top sheet but it looked like this.
http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/Johnnydp/media/h31_zps6a531479.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2

johnny, where did you get yours? i usually see fakes but yours looks real. my sheet also looks like that. (the fake ones have this flat, dull look like this http://www.pingpongboard.com/images/qwb_image2122554232142.JPG) (too bad to the guy who bought "provincial". it's a fake)

That's just what an unboosted, relatively new sheet looks like. Doesn't mean it's a fake at all. As long as the sheet has 6 sides, it is 99% certain that it's a provincial
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kurokami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/06/2013 at 10:37pm
johnny, did yours come out like that or only after boosting? my neo national came out of the package like the pic of zjk's. this was given to me. i bought a "provincial" once two years ago and it was the flat, dull looking kind. while it played better than commercial, i don't think it was the real provincial. i've seen provincial neo and it looks in between the dull type and the "zjk pic" type. if we're assuming china still uses traditional rubber production technologies, the center piece will be the best quality and gradually be cheaper quality going outwards. i think this would make sense with the provincial looking that way
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Originally posted by glanden.zheng glanden.zheng wrote:

Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

Originally posted by Johnny.d.p Johnny.d.p wrote:

I received a sheet of DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial #20 sponge 38° for free along with an order I made. Although I was rather happy with this, something caught my attention that was a tad bit concerning. 
The top sheet didn't look like other DHS rubbers I've owned, Hurricane 3s in particular. I expected a flat dull sort of shine to the top sheet but it looked like this.
http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/Johnnydp/media/h31_zps6a531479.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2

johnny, where did you get yours? i usually see fakes but yours looks real. my sheet also looks like that. (the fake ones have this flat, dull look like this http://www.pingpongboard.com/images/qwb_image2122554232142.JPG) (too bad to the guy who bought "provincial". it's a fake)

That's just what an unboosted, relatively new sheet looks like. Doesn't mean it's a fake at all. As long as the sheet has 6 sides, it is 99% certain that it's a provincial


The rubber actually also looked like this prior to boosting which kind of contradicts what everyone said. But nevertheless, after boosting, it retained the look.

Originally posted by yesyup yesyup wrote:

How many layers of waterbased glue and dianchi booster that you had put on the sponge?..
Then, now many days you left the rubber before attached it to your blade?


I personally am new to boosting so I followed instructions the person running my club told me. He is a regular booster who boosts his H3 blue sponge every 2 months, is a friend of my brother and he is older brother and one of the coaches of a player who is top 10 in Australia so I'd say I trust him.
   2 layers of free chack (I used free chack 2) then 2-3 layers of booster, each time waiting completely for it to dry (safest option is to wait 20-24 hours).
   I used 3 layers of booster, each time applying it as thin and as evenly as possible. After 2 applications of booster, the rubber had domed enough so both ends of the rubber touched. It did dome into itself like a sushi roll after the 3rd application so that seemed like it was enough.
   I then waited 3-4 days then glued the rubber on. I was told by the person that the rubber doesn't have to be completely flat, just as long as you can glue it on.
   Next time when I boost or when I boost my H3 National, whichever comes first, I will follow the Dianchi instructions. Apply 4 layers of Dianchi waterbased glue and 4 layers of Dianchi then wait a week for it to settle before gluing it onto the blade.
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Originally posted by Johnny.d.p Johnny.d.p wrote:


The rubber actually also looked like this prior to boosting which kind of contradicts what everyone said. But nevertheless, after boosting, it retained the look.


This appearance is common on the traditional rubbers after speed-gluing or boosting or those build-in speed-glue effect rubbers (like Tenergy) because their topsheets are stretched. But it surprised me that a traditional rubber could look like this before any forms of tuning or stretching.
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