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lumberjack 
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 Topic: What rubber pleasePosted: 08/18/2013 at 12:16pm |
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I wish to purchase a spinny rubber at least 9.3 if possible cheaply.
I have just spent £65 on a complete bat (classic air with dhs neo skyline 2 rubbers) and I am not that happy and certainly does not feel like the 9.4 spin it is supposed to, also f/h is damaged so replacing it. I bought in a second bat which was appallingly put together, off ebay and whilst I have repaired it somewhat there is only so much I can do. The forehand has a tuttle bejing on it and I want to replace that with the same. However the first one I want to ask for suggestions. I see a friendship 729 on ebay and the seller links to a 729 - 729 tabletennis.db Yet I see no way of easily telling this as there appears to be 729-5 etc etc. I assume it will be stamped in the rubber, is that the case please? Happy to take recommendations about what to buy, guy I know is going over to china in a week or so and will bring me back some rubbers thanks |
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 12:39pm |
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HI
I've been using DHS Hurricane 3 for months now and its the spinniest rubber I've ever used. Alot of people rate tenergy and say that is the spinniest rubber. I've never tried it and never will. I dont think its worth £50 a sheet. Go with hurricane 3.
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 1:11pm |
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AndySmith
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 1:57pm |
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To answer your specific questions:
There are a lot of variations of 729 rubber. The classic is probably 729-fx - tacky, loads of spin, quite slow. If you post a link to the sale page, we can tell you a bit more about it. The topsheet generally has the specific rubber name stamped on, but this won't tell you about variations in sponge in some cases. Hurricane 3 is a great rubber - tacky, spinny, hard Chinese sponge, cheap. Lots of players use it at all levels. However, I wonder about your report of finding Skyline TG2 low spin, because it's very similar to Hurricane 3 (although H3 is easier to use, IMO). It could be that your TG2 is worn out, or fake, or that you don't get along with tacky Chinese rubbers, which prefer a brushing technique for big spin. Hard to recommend things without knowing a bit more about you - playing level, how you like to play, etc.
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 2:15pm |
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Look into the Hurricanes or SkyLine rubbers. I like the Neo versions a little better. All the DHS rubbers I have tried seem to last and last but there isn't much of a spring effect from them. If you want spin without the effort then you should really stick to a Japanese or German rubber but these cost more and will probably be more than your budget allows. |
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 2:47pm |
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1 dont use chinese tacky on bh, will save you lots of trouble
2 dead chinese tacky rubbers like skyline 2 need boosting AND good forehand technique(large motion, fast swing speed) 3 not suitable for beginners
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 2:51pm |
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yeah what adny smith said.. h3 is somewhat easier to use than tg2.
for me the difficulty would be H2>TG2>H3>TG3 .. TG3 being the east to use... TG2 and h3 have similar spin potential. but tg2 has this weird ball trajectory/throw. where as h3 requires alot of focus and very good technique. Tg3 is like a hybrid between those two
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FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
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wow thanks guys, loads of info there
the link is here and he refers to tabletennis.db review of a 729 729 but I am not convinced they are those ones. I said I would have the three he has but want to make sure (though they are seriously cheap it would not matter much) Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231030572025 ta |
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spin 9.3??? what are you on about??
if yo want to go chinese rubber H3 Neo is great for brush loops if you have the technique. personally i prefer T05 when it comes to looping. euro rubbers are not bad either as long as it is hard like Xiom Pro version
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spin 9.3??? what are you on about??
That's what it says when I look here so I assume they are accurate. http://www.tabletennisdb.com/top-rubber/spin-desc.html |
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Yeah, these look like OEM versions of 729 - supplied without packaging, in bulk, to keep costs down. Quality control isn't the best on these, but they're fine for total beginners. Hard sponged, slow, tacky. If that's what you're after, then you're not going to lose a lot of cash trying them out. These take me back. I started with a Rapid Carbon blade with 729 on both sides. They are slow, but a fast, bouncy blade helps a bit. I could hit some seriously weird short angles with it, but it was a lot of hard work to play a "normal/typical" fast topspin game with them. If I could go back in time, I'd slap myself in the face and tell me to start with Mark V instead. But would I listen to future me?
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 3:58pm |
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These numbers are meaningless. The first set is pure marketing spiel from rubber manufacturers, and the other is an average of what people type in when rating rubbers, which is just a wild off the top of the head number. Personally, I have a hard time believing that anyone on this planet can feel any difference between speed/spin/control ratings of "9.3 and 9.4" or "115 and 120", etc.
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 4:00pm |
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Thanks again
Just ordered some hurricane 3 neo's from china at a fair price thanks to all who advised me |
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Good choice.
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 4:04pm |
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dont use Hurricane 3 neo on the backhand side, its just bad there
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Thanks
have ordered 2 red for forehand |
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Posted: 08/18/2013 at 10:14pm |
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Don't waste money on equipment if you want to get better. Do drills and get coaching.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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It just requires careful timing.
Yep, one can generate top spin with a passive block. If you brush loop with T05 just imagine what can happen. The ball will jump out fast at the opponent and dive low after the bounce. Often the ball will dive low beneath the opponents paddle. This will cause him problems if he is trying to brush loop too. If you put a little side spin on the ball or hook loop you can cause the opponent all sorts of problems. |
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