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the_theologian
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Sure, any table tennis brand that makes blades.
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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max
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frogger
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1. Stiga, these blades are the worst I have seen. Terrible finishing and attention to detail. 2. Butterfly, blades with limba outer plys or the lower cost blades need sealing. Koto ply blades are better but still need sealing. 3. Juic, early production blades where of higher quality than they produce today. Many of there blades are made in China and they all need sealing regardless of wood type. 4. Nittaku, softer wood blades like Runlox-5, Rising, Kasumi Basic need sealing. Best advice is to seal any blade regardless of manufacture unless there is a statement that a sealant has been applied.
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jt99sf
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I agree with the recent Stiga blades, very bad attention to detail. My favorites right now is the Donic and Butterfly blades.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
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GwaiLo
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I ordered from paddle palace as well. I think the problem may be the type of glue they use because I ordered for them to seal my blade, however, I still had a four inch long splinter come off in the middle of the blade when changing rubbers. The glue felt so strong, I couldn't believe how hard it was to pull the rubber off. So, I think the problem may not be whether or not to seal the blade, but to use the right type of glue. Anybody else order glued paddles from paddle palace?
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bluebucket
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Blades you want to seal if you don't like splinters. "Everything that makes spin". Hardwood blades don't need it. If you don't want to seal your blades then you need to become more skilled at removing rubbers, this involves taking the rubber off diagonally and more than likely using some heat (a hair drier on a mild setting) to soften the water based glue, you point the hair dryer between the blade and sponge as you remove it, this works a treat, even a modern stiga allround resists splintering if you do this. Another option is using rubber cement on the blade and water based glue on the sponge. I don't seal my blades, be careful use a good water based glue and you have no problems
Edited by bluebucket - 10/20/2013 at 12:12pm |
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frogger
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Paddlepalace is using a stronger bonding glue than they had in the past. That is part of the problem. They are now selling this glue under "Paddlepalace" brand glue. Blades with softer outer plys will not do well with it without splintering. When ordering a setup from Paddlepalace never have them assemble it unless they seal the blade first.
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jt99sf
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From GL's pst, he did order sealing for the blade and it still splintered. If you use RC, you'll never have these issues. If you use WBG, you're just looking for problems. |
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
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mertus
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+1. Agree polyutherane (oil based) varnish is way better than water based ones.
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mertus
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+1!
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cole_ely
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I had someone send me a blade to refinish. It was one of my quattro O blades, but it had reactor corbor x2. I noticed it had PP edge tape on it.
The glue was very tough and very thick. I coudln't tell what kind it was, but it reminded me of carpet glue the way it looked like it was put down with a serrated trowell. It was very hard to pull up. Reminded me of when I semi ruined my xienting shark by mixing booster and water glue (tough blade to learn that lesson on. I wondered if he'd sent his blade to PP...do they sell reactor? Good thing I sealed the quattro when he bought it from me originally.
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aeoliah
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+1. Oil based polyurethane is the best for me. |
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frogger
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I have found that using oil based polyuthane does a wonderful job of protecting the blade but it does alter the playing characteristics. I only use water based sealers.
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JimT
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I always seal using Minwax Clear Fast-Dry Polyurethane finish. Just half a teaspoon per side (or even less), then spread it evenly and set on a flat surface for a few hours.
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mertus
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frogger, does water based varnish lasts long as the oil-based ones?...
In my case, 2 very thin layer of oil based varnish works great and does not alter the palying characteristics of my blade. I use cloth to spread the varnish as thin as I can and leave it to dry before adding the next layer.
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frogger
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I think there are different formulations for oil based sealers. Some have a hardening agents that makes them set up to hard for blade sealing. The ones I have tried did alter the feel and playing characteristics of my blades. I have had zero issues with water based sealers.
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