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    Posted: 11/07/2013 at 10:28am
I've noticed that JUIC 999 and Globe 999 seem to have a lot of similarities. Are they the same rubber? They even seem to have the same variants, e.g Japan rubber, turbo, National.
I've had problems finding JUIC 999 rubbers and they seem to be much more expensive than Globe 999.

Also , if anyone has played with these rubbers, how do they compare with H3 Provincial/H3 National boosted/unboosted? My forum search shows that there are some similarities but I'd like additional opinions anyways!

I'm always on the lookout for a rubber that will play almost identically to a H3 Pro boosted that can be bought for < $30 and has a useful life of about 4 months of play (at 7-10 hours a week).


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Same topsheet, different sponges. Juic uses high quality Japanese spponges. In the US, you can get JUIC 999 rubbers at padde palace: http://www.paddlepalace.com/Rubber/products/1/0/33
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Absolutely not the same. I had Globe999, Globe 999Nat, Globe 999 Jap sponge and could directly compare them with mine Juic 999EU, 999EN, Juic999 regular........ No, they are not the same

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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Absolutely not the same.
In what regard not the same?
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Different top, different sponge(of course), different weight, different game, different price. Globe ones (except the Nat) are generally tackier, slower and a lot heavier with typical Chinese QC. All of this doesn't mean that the Chinese are that bad-just different
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The ones on the juic defense rubbers are pretty close. In fact, I think anything not "elite" could pass as globe made (not sure if they are but you would think they would be - why would you advertise a topsheet that's chinese and then pay to make it in japan).  Actually, of all the Japanese companies I think Juic farms the most out to china. 
The ones that are "elite" topsheet are totally different. Much thinner and lighter. The palio Cj8000 1.4mm topsheets in the blue package kind of remind me of the 999 elite topsheet....much more than the 999 or 999t tops.


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Juic versions are better quality and higher price. Original Chinese version has the most tack. Juic version is best on OFF+ blades because even with higher quality Japanese sponge it is slower in speed compared to many glue effect rubbers. Speed ratings for Juic 999 Turbo is way off the mark provided by Paddle Palace. They have it at 90 for speed when actually it is more like 78-79. Just my 2 cents.
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The "Juic 999" rubbers feature topsheets made by Globe (they are even stamped as such, they have both Globe and Juic logos on the rubber), sponges varying. QC is probably higher, who knows.
Any "ELITE" rubber on the other hand is a completely different product and accordingly plays much differently (has some tack but really is more mechanical, starting to feel more like the usual nanospins / random Juic stuff).
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Yes some are likely made by Globe but with higher quality & quality control. I agree the Elite & Elite nano are totally different. The 999 Turbo topsheet is also different but closer to the Globe ones than the Eilite ones.
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I've heard that 999 turbo is some super rubber, now I'm hearing it's just slow. 

I was going to try that one too, dang. 
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ah well bummer, just looked at the price of Juic rubbers - more expensive than H3 Provincial.
Oh well, maybe H3 really is the best bang for the buck when it comes to harder tacky rubbers.
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

I've heard that 999 turbo is some super rubber, now I'm hearing it's just slow. 

It's super spinny if you have a Chinese-style stroke. Speed is probably similar to something like H3 Neo, but certainly not the speed of a fast Tensor.
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Juic 999 Turbo plays like a spinny classic rubber. Low bounce, good control, spinny on loops and serves. This rubber works best on fast blades and recommend it for BH only. Really have to work hard on the FH to get top speed. H3 Neo is faster for all strokes. Very nice quality topsheet and sponge but I see no tension in either.
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I think Haggisv is closer to the truth than Frogger.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I think Haggisv is closer to the truth than Frogger.
 
 Yes it is very spin friendly. It can be fast with good technique on a fast blade but I find it considerably slower than H3 on a fast blade. Get a sheet and compare it yourself. Ermm
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I think Haggisv is closer to the truth than Frogger.

 
 Yes it is very spin friendly. It can be fast with good technique on a fast blade but I find it considerably slower than H3 on a fast blade. Get a sheet and compare it yourself. Ermm
I have. I think you were more disappointed by the misleading Paddle Palace ratings than anything else. But as a Chinese rubber, it is definitely one of the best for the post glue era user. The rubber plays better with repeated use and the short game control is the real benefit.

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I agree Paddle Palace sometimes doesn't get the ratings correct. I play T64 or T64FX most of the time so compared to those rubbers Juic 999 Turbo seems slower. I will give it some time to see if the speed improves with some break-in.
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:


I agree Paddle Palace sometimes doesn't get the ratings correct. I play T64 or T64FX most of the time so compared to those rubbers Juic 999 Turbo seems slower. I will give it some time to see if the speed improves with some break-in.
No doubt it is slower and heavier. It is much higher throw and spinnier than a classic rubber and that makes it good value for Chinese rubber users.

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