the greatest dilemma

this is all I have and I can't buy anything more.

blades:
amultart -> 84 grams
donic ovtcharov senso carbon (it's off- tending to off) -> 102 grams
hrt ebenholz vii -> 90 grams

rubbers:
tenergy 25 black
tibhar evolution mx-p black

tenergy 05 red
bryce speed fx red

so whatever my setup is it needs to come out of there.


Edited by puppy412 - 02/23/2014 at 10:51pm

Lestat wrote: NextLevel wrote: Lestat, what is your rating? You challenged us to present puts ours and have not shown yours. I am known to be 1800-1900 on most days, and have shown videos. Ddreamer has provided his info. Why are you straightforward in presenting yours? No need for a video! After all, all the talk should be buttressed with the authority of ratings... I'm playing in the top regional irish league with players 2200-2500us rating, if I am to go by what I saw on youtube. Is that enough a ballpark?

yes, it is better than nothing.

I think I'll try amultart + fh tibhar mx-p + bh bryce speed fx -> total weight = 180g
hopefully tibhar + bryce will tame the amultart a little bit.
perfect setup?

other choice would be
ovtcharov carbon + tenergy 25 (fh) + tenergy 05 (bh) -> total weigth = 197.5 g




Edited by puppy412 - 02/23/2014 at 11:23pm

Lestat wrote: Fair enough doraemon. Everybody will use what makes them happy in the end. But if your argument is bringing a few examples of top players who use slower blades, let's not forget what everybody else is using. Yours are in overwhelming minority. You would be much better to debate my points specifically, if you disagree.

OK.  In your case, I agree with you.  You are playing at high level, so it is natural if lots of people around you are using fast equipments.   They can handle them well.  No problem with that.

However, in this forum, there are quite a few people, including me, who got blasted for suggesting something slower to beginner, or to an adult who has played for years but did not have the basics.    If they want to improve, I always suggest slower blades, usually in the ALL+ to OFF-.    I have seen too many examples, where beginner learn TT from the beginning using Sardius or Primorac Carbon (with modern tensors), only to see them frustrated because they develop slower compared to their friends because they can't control their equipments.   It is like someone driving Formula-1, before they start with a gokart.

I do not know Puppy412 level, so I naturally suggest OFF- blade.  It is easier to step up when you are ready.

If we are talking about high level competition, use whatever you want to give you the extra advantages, as long as you can control it.


Edited by doraemon - 02/23/2014 at 11:40pm

puppy412 wrote: sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out

puppy412 wrote: just stumbled upon this video from another thread I'm trying to get used to playing similar to the player grubba in the video. you can see that 1- he's not excessively close to the table, he maintains a considerable distance. 2- his arm movements are relaxed and not exaggerated. he can do this because his equipment gives him much of the speed he needs. 3- he doesn't attack every ball, he only attacks every now and then and many times only using part of his body strength. 4- his general mindset is not so offensive as what you see in ma long or zhang jike or those style of players. look for example at point at 1:00, he's not even looping, just keeping the ball in play gently. this is more how I see my game evolving rather than trying to copy the chinese guys.

assiduous wrote: Man, I rarely agree with someone 100%. But I nothing to improve on the below post, and it is actually better presented than if I were to say the same (I would make sure a few people feel insulted). It's nice when I can add my opinion just by agreeing with someone and not do all the fighting myself. If you have any interest in Table Tennis, the below text is Free Money!

he's a little bit higher than my rating but not that much.
what happens with this player happens with more players who beat me consistently.

if you want to sum it up, basically:
1- they have mastered short game so don't make many mistakes here, even if their equipment is fast
this guy in particular uses this I think with fast euro tensors

2- they are able to contain my attacks, specially when I use slow equipment like untuned h3neo
3- I am not able to contain their attacks or if I am my blocks are not offensive enough so they just keep attacking until I lose the point


Edited by puppy412 - 02/24/2014 at 2:57pm

today went back to
amultart
fh: tenergy 25
bh: tenergy 05

this thing is a beast, I can't understand why more people are not using this combination.
control: 10/10
speed: 20/10
spin: 10/10

and the final weight is only 184g

thank god I moved away from the ovtcharov senso carbon (197g and so so speed).
I don't see myself changing from this setup anytime soon.
is the dilemma solved?


Edited by puppy412 - 02/25/2014 at 8:52pm