Looking for shortpips easy to use

I played table tennis 2 year ago with inverted rubber. I'm a penholder and now I want to change to shortpips forehand and inverted rubber backhand. I buy a HRT Clipper Wood/Stiga clone to use with  shortpips. Can someone tell me is what shortpips easy to use for shortpips-beginer. Some friend of mine told that TSP Spectol or 729 802 is easy, is that real? Is any shortpips else again? And how thick is it, I see proffessional shortpips-er ussually choose 1.8mm, that is standard?

Edited by DaNgo - 10/24/2014 at 10:53am

Stiga Clippa is easy for SH player to use on BH, for PH I am not sure, you may want to give it a try.  I use Andro Blowfish on FH side, and like it very much, but may not be so easy to play, since you are not familiar with SP.  So I think Clippa is better for you coming from inverted.


Edited by mhnh007 - 10/24/2014 at 10:49am

1.8 is pretty standard for amateurs…

Try this, you can find it at colesTT...not SP but MP



http://www.tabletennisratings.com/equipment/friendship-729-ritc-563-reviews/306/1/user-ratings.html


Edited by thatguy - 10/24/2014 at 11:56am

JOOLA "express ultra" is as good or better than any short pip rubber you are going to use, I have tried several, it has very good speed and i can still spin the ball with my backhand...this is a fact!

802-40 can do everything well and easy to pick up and use fast.

Tuco is correct . . . the easiest SP to use are transition rubbers that play like inverted. Friendship 802-40 is fairly easy to use on the 35º sponge. Zeropong and Cole can certainly get that for you at a good price. -40 is much easier to use than the standard 802. However, like everything else in this sport, there is a tradeoff . . . more spin = more reaction to opponents spin. 802 is much better to hit through spin.

Edited by tommyzai - 10/25/2014 at 12:38am

Baal wrote: If you are used to inverted, something like Raystorm is pretty easy to begin to learn SP.

TwiddleDee wrote: I have tried many of the pips listed above, but found the easiest inverted to short pips transition is to Winning NP-8, with soft (30 degrees) or offensive ( 35 to 38 degrees) sponge. I use it on my forehand, and inverted on my backhand, but can flip to either side when needed.

NP1 will be better choice.

One of the easiest SP to transition from inverted are victas >102. Get them in 1.8 or 2.0 and its a great rubber lasts a long time as well.

just to add friendship 799 in theory should give you a feel near Spectol since they are both raw short pips!!

suds79 wrote: I play penhold and play 802 in 2.0 sponge on Clipper. Control is amazing and simply feels so good. 802 is good, classic & cheap. Being new to SP, this for me would be a big selling point just in case you absolutely hate SPs. If you do? You're out 10 bucks vs the 30+ some for TSP. Plus 802 really good also. I have a 35 deg soft version which is nice and controlled but if you need a little more pop, Cole sells 802 and I believe he can put it either on a more firm or spingy sponge for you. I'm the penholder in this video. Not really an 802 review here but at least you can see some hits with the 802 on the new poly ball. Hope you find a winner. That's a really good video. The guy in the white shirt was really spinny. I know Matt really well.