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Tt Gold 
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 Topic: Multiball failPosted: 01/01/2015 at 8:18am |
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http://youtu.be/GLsAYtKqlI8
You have to have no ball feeling at all to do this |
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Tinykin
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Posted: 01/01/2015 at 10:26am |
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Maybe it was his first attempt at m-ball.
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Posted: 01/01/2015 at 10:59am |
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change your penhold grip for shakehand grip !
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Posted: 01/02/2015 at 8:15pm |
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I also think it would be better to change to shakehand grip, he also looks a bit stiff in his movement haha
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TTFrenzy
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Posted: 01/03/2015 at 1:18am |
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Τhe multiball is just fine, he rushes too much and tries to kill every ball.
This exercise is too much for him, he should perfect his FH/BH with slow pace multiball and then go for more complicated drills. His backhand snap is also good but again he rushes to much. He cant even place 3 consecutive FH loops (against high slow balls) over the table trolololol I liked the fact that he is living it to the fullest and smiling, most of my players when try complicated exercises on multiball almost get depressed cause they realize they are not as good as they thought
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Egghead
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Posted: 01/03/2015 at 2:20am |
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Did his coach tell him the balls sequence at all?
His coach should stop the drill and explained the drill to him. |
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Posted: 01/03/2015 at 7:01am |
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Posted: 01/03/2015 at 9:11am |
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Don't think there is any balls sequence at all. This method will do him more harm than good. Will not improve his strokes and footwork, furthermore, encourage more bad habits.
For advance multi-balls feeding, the sequence is to simulate a set play. |
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BH-Man
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Posted: 01/03/2015 at 1:26pm |
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Funny, see a Korean Taekwondo sign, but tis is certainly not a Korean place. Korean coaches will quickly move a player to this shot selection multiball drill, usually after they show they can hit Fh to FH forever and can do a one step to FH and land it 1000x in a row. Usually a new player is doing this drill around the 5-6 month mark.
nothing wrong for a coach having player do this drill, but I also perceive the same as others that this player is not yet ready for this drill. I think he would benefit form more FH to Fh single ball and multiball and one step to Fh and recover slower multiball before moving to this decision inder pressure drill.
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Posted: 01/03/2015 at 4:52pm |
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worst advice ever given"lets put it on the internet"
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:22am |
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I agree with others. It is too much too soon. My coach wouldn't have let this continue. He is very big on timing and none is shown here.
The student would have done well to simply block the balls back.
I don't think it makes much difference whether the student is using shake hands or pen holder. |
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:33am |
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there is a chance they were just goofing off on that video; let's not forget about that possibility...they might be very serious in their usual sessions if any; we don't know.
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:21pm |
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I don't think this guy is as bad as he looked in that video. The guy delivering the balls has no idea what he is doing.
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:33pm |
No, since the point of a drill like this, especially for a player like this, is to develop smooth topspin consistency while transitioning from side to side, so just blocking the ball back would be a waste of time. In this case, though, the delivery was too fast and in positions too difficult for this person's level, and also the ball spin and trajectory not very much like anything one would normally encounter, so the guy being trained had no hope of getting any rhythm. Giving multiball is a skill in itself, it takes a long time to acquire. |
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:38pm |
I thought it was an excellent session. I don't think the guy delivering the balls was that bad depending on what the goal of the session was. He probably posted it online to get a good laugh, but he may have requested a very challenging session.
Edited by NextLevel - 01/04/2015 at 12:40pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:40pm |
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I honestly have no idea what the goal of that could have been other than just tire out the guy. The trajectory and pace of delivery suggested that the person delivering the balls was very inexperienced.
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kenneyy88
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:50pm |
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I think it might have been just for fun to see if he could do a challenging multiball.
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NextLevel
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 12:55pm |
He might have been given an easier multiball and thought it was too slow. So he just got a faster paced one.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 2:16pm |
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The next ball should be thrown only after the previous ball has traveled a sufficient distance past the end of the table to simulate reaching a spot where the opponent could hit it. The timing will change depending on the speed of the return and also whether the ball is hit by a BH shot or FH shot since BH balls are usually hit earlier because they are hit in front whereas a FH ball is hit a little later because they are hit off to the side. The coach seemed to try hitting balls at a constant interval like a robot would try to do.
My coach usually doesn't hit the balls one at a time out of the box like in the video. I am expected to hit the ball to a place where he can block it but he often gets on my case about controlling the pace. If I hit the ball fast I need to expect the ball to come back quickly. This provides realistic timing for the next ball obviously. The student was spraying balls all over the place. Perhaps that is why the coach is feeding balls out of a box. This timing issue is also one of my complaints about my Newgy 2050. The timing is not realistic. I should patent this idea. I think the robots should have a sensor that can detect the ball hitting the net and then shoot the next ball. There would need to be a time out timer in case the ball didn't hit the net so the next ball could be thrown anyway after a short delay. This will automatically adjust the timing of the next ball. Then I could take a step back away from the table and the robot would slow down the throw rate. |
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NextLevel
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Posted: 01/04/2015 at 2:22pm |
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Sometimes, multiball is not supposed to be realistic - it is sometimes supposed to be so slow that it gives the student time to do the stroke at their own pace or so fast that it stretches the student to or beyond his limits.
Patent idea is brilliant. Edited by NextLevel - 01/04/2015 at 2:48pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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