playing against junk rubber

this has been discussed before with the player in black in the discussion…

skip3119 wrote: JohnnyChop wrote: this has been discussed before with the player in black in the discussion… Pushblocker plays almost exclusively with his lp BH and long pip is is very hard to smash with! But i would think the tactic worked mainly because of the surprise factor like a eephus pitch. Pushblocker is a high level player I doubt any regular player can easily take a game of him with or without this tactic!  ====================== Agree with you that this video has been discussed, in great length, before. The OP probably doesn't know that Pushblocker (black shirt) is a high level player (USATT, 2175) and one time went above 2300. If you are under 2000, say 1900+, you have no chance to beat that player wearing black shirt (Pushblocker).

For people who don't recognize the player in blue its Cory Eider (Current rating is over 2500). He had just started playing again after not playing for almost 6 years at the time of this tournament. Cory was obviously not playing seriously and he still won 3-0.

Edited by Vince64 - 02/26/2015 at 12:50am

jt99sf wrote: you're absolutely right that I didn't know about this being discussed at length before.  Now if you can just tell me where that thread is (or how to find it), then your reply would have been of value. ************************************************************************* The OP obviously needs assistance, I hope he doesn't get it.

pnachtwey wrote: skip3119 wrote: If you are under 2000, say 1900+, you have no chance to beat that player wearing black shirt (Pushblocker). This isn't about playing against junk rubber.   It is more about Corey Eider thinking outside the box and exploiting a weakness that became obvious during the match.  I don't see why a smart but weaker player couldn't exploit the same weakness.

A stronger player has stronger quality of shots/motion, and this includes control over simple blocks. A weaker player will have poor position against any return and likely misjudge them anyway.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41150

Edited by JohnnyChop - 02/26/2015 at 8:42am

pingponger wrote: JohnnyChop wrote: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41150 Here is the original link!!! Pushblocker is the player in black in the thread... i just hope we don't turn this into another lp players are easy to beat with simple tactics again!!!! Thanks much!  I'm just on page 1 of that thread and feel that I learned alot already (at least in theory).  I also just subscribed to Olivier's YT channel, because of this. @jt99sf: The above is a good example of how to contribute to a discussion: focus on the topic and try to be constructive.  'hope you learned from this, cheers.

skip3119 wrote: JohnnyChop wrote: this has been discussed before with the player in black in the discussion… Pushblocker plays almost exclusively with his lp BH and long pip is is very hard to smash with! But i would think the tactic worked mainly because of the surprise factor like a eephus pitch. Pushblocker is a high level player I doubt any regular player can easily take a game of him with or without this tactic!  ====================== Agree with you that this video has been discussed, in great length, before. The OP probably doesn't know that Pushblocker (black shirt) is a high level player (USATT, 2175) and one time went above 2300. If you are under 2000, say 1900+, you have no chance to beat that player wearing black shirt (Pushblocker).

A 2275 player just tried the same thing against me last weekend at a tournament and I beat him... I learned to attack since Cory Eider came up with that strategy..  I did some changes to my game which caused me to drop in rating but I'm on the way back up. I slowly made it back to about 2200.. (2199 right now).. Never dropped below 2100 in the process..


Edited by Pushblocker - 02/26/2015 at 3:23pm

pingponger wrote: @jt99sf: The above is a good example of how to contribute to a discussion: focus on the topic and try to be constructive.  'hope you learned from this, cheers.

pingponger wrote: There are people who prefer to be helpful and constructive.  Just have to weed out the rest. Did it matter that you decide not to spend your valuable time helping??   Good luck to you.

Pushblocker has fantastic ball control with his LP. If he can incorporate "advanced LP technique/strokes", he can should able to advance his rating easily to the next level. To handle those little or no spin high ball, just twiddle the blade to inverted rubber and drive/smash it, regardless BH or FH.

Over here, children in junior schools are train to use LP. Very effective against those weak in heavy top spin drive.

atomant wrote: Pushblocker has fantastic ball control with his LP. If he can incorporate "advanced LP technique/strokes", he can should able to advance his rating easily to the next level. To handle those little or no spin high ball, just twiddle the blade to inverted rubber and drive/smash it, regardless BH or FH. Over here, children in junior schools are train to use LP. Very effective against those weak in heavy top spin drive.

Right now, I doubt that I will go up in rating in the near future due to the change in balls. My game is less effective with the plastic ball. I'm at 2199 right now but the last tournament I just played was with the old ball..
BTW, if you see me at a tournament, I don't look anything like in the video.. lost over 70 lbs...

Edited by Pushblocker - 02/26/2015 at 9:23pm

JohnnyChop wrote: Pushblocker wrote: atomant wrote: Pushblocker has fantastic ball control with his LP. If he can incorporate "advanced LP technique/strokes", he can should able to advance his rating easily to the next level. To handle those little or no spin high ball, just twiddle the blade to inverted rubber and drive/smash it, regardless BH or FH. Over here, children in junior schools are train to use LP. Very effective against those weak in heavy top spin drive. Right now, I doubt that I will go up in rating in the near future due to the change in balls. My game is less effective with the plastic ball. I'm at 2199 right now but the last tournament I just played was with the old ball.. BTW, if you see me at a tournament, I don't look anything like in the video.. lost over 70 lbs... Congrats!!!! on the weight loss…  i am wondering how you feel about the new ball from a push blocker perspective?

I have to work harder for my points with the new ball. Less mistakes by the opponents. However, my attacking game works pretty good with the new ball. Once I get that one going better, I might stay at the same level..