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Originally posted by bayttplayer bayttplayer wrote:

ML will have same issue if he against FZD or LJK this time.

We are talking about whether or not Ma Long career has been successful so far, and I still say yes.

YES I AGREE FZD will most likely surpass Ma Long.... AND EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!

But where/when did Liang Jikung (sp) enter the conversation? LOL That kid hasn't done didly squat yet!!!!! There's hundred of players who've won the Junior World Championships and not even come close to Ma Long. OK maybe hundreds is an exaggeration, but you get my point. LJK can't even beat Kenta Matsudaira. Right now he's just another Song Hongyuan, and while I really liked that guy as a player, he's no where close to Ma Long, wherever he is.



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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Originally posted by bayttplayer bayttplayer wrote:

ML will have same issue if he against FZD or LJK this time.

We are talking about whether or not Ma Long career has been successful so far, and I still say yes.

YES I AGREE FZD will most likely surpass Ma Long.... AND EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!

But where/when did Liang Jikung (sp) enter the conversation? LOL That kid hasn't done didly squat yet!!!!! There's hundred of players who've won the Junior World Championships and not even come close to Ma Long. OK maybe hundreds is an exaggeration, but you get my point. LJK can't even beat Kenta Matsudaira. Right now he's just another Song Hongyuan, and while I really liked that guy as a player, he's no where close to Ma Long, wherever he is.




OK..you think Ma Long career has been successful so far...without any success in big events....Wink
Believe me, LJK will give him a hard time if they meet this time...Wink


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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Hopefully FZD does not become the next ML, who seemed to be very promising at the very young age, but did not really do well in the big world event.

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Do well in big world event? Ma Long has had a great career so far, and its far from over. Wang Hao's had his number in 3 consecutive World Championships, otherwise he has arguably been one of the best 3 players in the world for most of his time on the CNT.


I know what you are saying about the score, but that only holds if you haven't watched the match. The way the points developed.. XX was in no mood to entertain the crowd with Mizutani's usual circus retrievals, NO RALLY AT ALL. Literally crushed the ball every point, like he was angry or something. He did let off the gas pedal after building a safe lead, but after that went in crush mode again.
Dude, I am not even a fan of XX. But I am being honest here, I did not expect him to dispose of Mizutani like this, smacking him around like a noob. Mizutani felt humiliated at one point, I believe. At 10:0 XX gave him a point, but Mizutani refused to concede the game and kept swinging angry all the way up to 10:5, when he finally lost it. Nobody fights XX from 10:0 expecting to win, this is just anger..
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opps..we off the topic again...Unhappy could someone post the final please....
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Originally posted by Victor_the_cleaner Victor_the_cleaner wrote:

Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Hopefully FZD does not become the next ML, who seemed to be very promising at the very young age, but did not really do well in the big world event.

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Do well in big world event? Ma Long has had a great career so far, and its far from over. Wang Hao's had his number in 3 consecutive World Championships, otherwise he has arguably been one of the best 3 players in the world for most of his time on the CNT.


I know what you are saying about the score, but that only holds if you haven't watched the match. The way the points developed.. XX was in no mood to entertain the crowd with Mizutani's usual circus retrievals, NO RALLY AT ALL. Literally crushed the ball every point, like he was angry or something. He did let off the gas pedal after building a safe lead, but after that went in crush mode again.
Dude, I am not even a fan of XX. But I am being honest here, I did not expect him to dispose of Mizutani like this, smacking him around like a noob. Mizutani felt humiliated at one point, I believe. At 10:0 XX gave him a point, but Mizutani refused to concede the game and kept swinging angry all the way up to 10:5, when he finally lost it. Nobody fights XX from 10:0 expecting to win, this is just anger..

But XX actually lost the game after he gave the courtesy point. This coutesy point at 10:0 is no good. It will put the attacker in the "easy" mode and lost the game or the match if they keep on the "easy" mode.  
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

But XX actually lost the game after he gave the courtesy point. This coutesy point at 10:0 is no good. It will put the attacker in the "easy" mode and lost the game or the match if they keep on the "easy" mode.


XX did not lost that game. It was finished at 11:4. XX is in total control with plenty of reserve and he can step up his game if needed. The final vs FZD is another superb match that we don't see too often.
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

But XX actually lost the game after he gave the courtesy point. This coutesy point at 10:0 is no good. It will put the attacker in the "easy" mode and lost the game or the match if they keep on the "easy" mode.


XX did not lost that game. It was finished at 11:4. XX is in total control with plenty of reserve and he can step up his game if needed. The final vs FZD is another superb match that we don't see too often.

I think he meant that he lost the game after - as in the next game.  So XX giving the courtesy point made him mentally slack afterwards.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

But XX actually lost the game after he gave the courtesy point. This coutesy point at 10:0 is no good. It will put the attacker in the "easy" mode and lost the game or the match if they keep on the "easy" mode.


XX did not lost that game. It was finished at 11:4. XX is in total control with plenty of reserve and he can step up his game if needed. The final vs FZD is another superb match that we don't see too often.

I think he meant that he lost the game after - as in the next game.  So XX giving the courtesy point made him mentally slack afterwards.
 
Oops my bad. Wink
 
I remember XX said in an interview that he will deliberately go into relax mode once in a while to avoid tense up in crucial moments. Unlike ML who seems to like crushing everyone 4:0. May be it is this mind set that ML is missing which makes the difference. ML should realised that he does not need 4:0 to win a match. Confused ZJK is simply the master of it. He knows exactly when to give up and when to peak. After all they are all human.
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I am very interested in the short form of the women's final.  China actually lost an international event (well, kinda lost since Feng Tianwei is ex-CNT) on the women's side and it's not getting pushed anywhere.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

I am very interested in the short form of the women's final.  China actually lost an international event (well, kinda lost since Feng Tianwei is ex-CNT) on the women's side and it's not getting pushed anywhere.
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The result is known for quite sometime, but unable to find that match video anywhere.
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Zheyi, that was great, thank you!

XX played really well this tournament, i changed my opinion of him now. Again the score was 4:3, but that was with FZD pulling out both deuce games. When I watched the match you could rarely see the usual rips from FZD. XX kept him contained all match, stayed out of mid-distance rallies where FZD would have advantage due to BH, and played mostly short-short-kill. Even his BH looked good now. Don't know who's noticed, but XX used to just twitch his wrist in the over the table BH and the shot was average at best. Now I see a little longer stroke, a little more forearm, like ZJK, and the ball is dancing more after his stroke.
I think XX will be a real competitor is Suzhou.
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XX is still too forehand oriented and extreme footwork reliant.
He steps aside early way too often.
Mizutani caught him down the line many times.
Other times, FZD caught him at the forehand elbow.

As a penholder I'd like to root for him.
But unless he has an amazing tournament in which he manages to get to every ball like RSM at his best, I don't think he'll make the final in Suzhou.



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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

I think he meant that he lost the game after - as in the next game.  So XX giving the courtesy point made him mentally slack afterwards.

IMO, in the 5th game (i.e. leading 3-1 against JM at this point) XX became more RPB oriented and lost the game.  It might be because he was trying to conserve energy/focus, or to put his new strategy to test.  I think at this point, he's of confident of winning the match if he continued to play as before (i.e. step around at his BH corner).

If my reading of that game is correct, his RBP is still not quite there at the highest level yet.  Nevertheless, I'm happy to see him working on it.  He might not be WH but I can't wait to see his own RPB style in a major tournament!


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Can not find the video of Liu Shiwen vs Feng Tianwei.

Also interesting is the video of Xu Xin vs Koki Niwa, it may not exist either
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What we're seeing in this tournament is best described as a reborn XX from the coaching of Wu Jingping.  He now plays like a penholder.

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The matches will air on CCTV-5 this coming week.  Be patient.
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Women's final, Liu Shiwen vs Feng Tianwei, ok quality.

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# The Great upset of Asian Cup in women's final!! (Highlights on youtube)



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Feng seems to have more power than LSW. It would be fun to see FTW play against LXX. The two have similar style.
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Feng seems to have more power than LSW. It would be fun to see FTW play against LXX. The two have similar style.

LSW changed her BH rubber recently. Not sure if it impacts her play. Feng has no chance against LXX. Li is simply too powerful for her to handle.
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# WS-F: LIU Shiwen vs FENG Tianwei [THE FULL VIDEO OF THE MATCH!!! (on youtube)]



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# MS-Final: XU Xin Vs FAN Zhendong [FULL Match @720p]



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