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jrscatman 
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I am trying to figure out the technique for chopping on the backhand with smooth rubber. When I use pips - I am pretty consistent. But when using smooth rubber - I am very inconsistent. Especially on slow spinny balls. Basically the ball flies up and over the table.
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Posted: 05/08/2015 at 2:53pm |
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Some offensive smooth rubbers are harder to chop with than others. One guy, who comes to mind chopping great with smooth rubber on the BH, is Jorgen Persson. You might watch some of his old videos or current exhibitions. |
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Posted: 05/08/2015 at 3:04pm |
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Start the stroke at the back (and not the bottom of the ball). This should solve most of your problems. |
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Posted: 05/08/2015 at 3:34pm |
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Crikey, the two rubbers do completely different things, the pips don't react with incoming spin as much as the smooth, so you can control incoming spin more with pips.
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Posted: 05/08/2015 at 5:12pm |
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Thanks for the suggestions - will give it a try tonight.
Didn't realize Persson chopped. Another strange thing is I am able to chop with smooth on the FH. I guess I'm not really clear on where I'm contacting the ball - just able to chop it successfully. |
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Posted: 05/08/2015 at 7:35pm |
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From what I have seen people use their legs/bend their knees quite a bit when they chop on the BH side.
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Posted: 05/08/2015 at 7:49pm |
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When the ball is slow and spinny it takes a good deal of racket speed to match/exceed the incoming spin. The longer stroke on the FH is better at this. You have to really stoke the ball, no just getting in the way like you can with long pips.
There have been successful world class choppers who used inverted on the BH, but it has been a while. See if you can find any YouTube videos of Norio Takashima. He was still using inverted on both sides through at least 1977. jfolsen edit for typo Edited by jfolsen - 05/08/2015 at 8:34pm |
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i chop with T05 on forehand and defensive chop with T64 on backhand. But my bh chop has to be far from table first in order to land. When it does go in, the trajectory from the T64 is very low and spinny.
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If you use inverted rubber instead of LPs. You need to get the ball lower and stroke more vertical that'll keep the ball deep and low. But because inverted rubber has more sensitive in spin than LPs, it'll be hard to keep the ball deep and low when playing with spinny topspin ball. Like forehand chop against spinny topspin ball. If you think the ball is spinny more than you can keep it low, you should block it back that'll be the safer way to prevent you from opponent hard attacking.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Will try it out hopefully tonight. Had tournament over the weekend and didn't want to add a new stroke before the tournament.
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Thanks ....but not an equipment guy....refuse to buy a rubber to hit a shot! (see I've kicked the habit!)
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I like that answer
. .......I think Tabmini has it best.We have 2 strong defender-players (father and son) in our league who both use Stiga AR plus MarkV both sides. They use topspin defence strokes for the spinny stuff and chop the rest. How they decide which to use and when, I don't know. Edited by Tinykin - 05/11/2015 at 2:12pm |
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