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Speedplay 
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 Topic: Spped glueing effectPosted: 07/14/2006 at 5:10pm |
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I have ask about this in another thread witout reply, so I try it this way insted; When I use speedglue (wich is about every time that I play) I find my rubbers to be both spinnier and easier to control, thats why I glue. When it comes to speed I find the slower when speedglued then when the are not. I Use Stiga carbon or Stiga energy.
Plaese correct me if I am wrong, but the glue softens the sponge, and a hard sponge is faster than a soft one... Anyone out there who has had the same experience? Or is it my glueing technic that fails me? |
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joey5867
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Posted: 07/14/2006 at 9:40pm |
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I had the same experience with my rubbers. I don't feel more speed when I glue but I feel more friction with the ball and control on my rubbers.
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tt12
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Posted: 07/14/2006 at 11:37pm |
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When I speed-glued Tihbar, TSP rubbers, they seemed have more speed. When I speed-glued LKT PRO XT, seemed that I lost the tackiness (friction and control) when I looped. Anyone had the same experience?
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SDRamones
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Posted: 07/15/2006 at 10:01am |
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Speed glueing puts tension on the sponge. So it increases speed in a different way. If you have heard of Tensioned rubber, it is the same way. But with speed glue you are adding the tension after or right before you have glued the rubber onto the blade. Basically stretching the sponge and creating the dome effect. On H3, it definitely sofftens the already hard sponge. I know on H3 it created more control for me, but on softer sponged rubbers like Sriver/Bryce FX or 729 LKT/P it increased the speed. WHat rubber are you speed glueing? |
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Posted: 07/15/2006 at 6:19pm |
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Well speed gluing only stretches the topsheet s little, so you can't really lose friction. A glued up XT will give you huge spin if you brush loop, chinese style. Since the XT sponge is alreadyvery soft, and gluing it makes it considerable softer, you may be bottoming it out on your strokes, resulting on less spin and control. If you brush instead drive through teh ball more, you'll get great spin and control, and a lot more speed than unglued. |
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 12:01am |
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haggisv, what do u mean by brushing the ball? Do u mean chopping? I rarely chopped. But, I 'll try it out. What I felt is when I looped drive with a glued XT, most of them went out of the table,which didn't happen when I used other rubbers. I have been looping for years. I don't believe my looping skills deterioriate that fast. |
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 12:09am |
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Are you used to speedgluing those rubbers as well?
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 12:53am |
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Yes, I have been using BTY Master Chack for many other rubbersl. May be it is just the feel. I don't really want to blame the equipment. May be I have to readjust my looping angles.
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 1:21am |
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brushing in other words is topspin with a steeper closed angle, rather than a regular upward upward stroke.
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 1:22am |
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For my chinese rubbers speedglue softens the sponge and speeds up the rubber. The topsheet is sticky so i dont get anymore spin but it is easier to control the spin I get.
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 1:34am |
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Which particular rubber is this happening on? G666 2.0 or the Max rubber? |
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 11:28am |
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I speedglue all of my rubbers and have the same result on all of them. More control, less speed. My friend who playes Almana sound have the same experience as me...
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Posted: 07/16/2006 at 10:44pm |
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I don't lose speed but I feel more spin and control.
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Posted: 01/04/2007 at 5:35pm |
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A good way to speedglue is, glueing 20-30 min before training. And then glue again just before the training starts! Then you have 2 layers of glue!
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Posted: 01/05/2007 at 3:57am |
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Everyone likes a different amount of effect. I have a friend who likes a similar amount as you...he uses one medium layer on each side and it just kind of softens the rubber by a quarter or half degree and makes it a little more lively. And me, well, my Bryce formed a complete cylinder today (domed to the point where the opposite sides overlapped a little). You never stated if you were happy with what kind of glue effect you were getting. It sounds like you want a little more, and you use an MP topsheet rubber. Those topsheets are really durable...you can really go for large domes if thats what you want.
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Posted: 01/05/2007 at 8:48am |
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2 layers on forehand rubber gave slight increase in speed without any loss of control which implies that spin values must have increased to retain same level of control,trying glass method in league match next week hoping effect will increase a bit further,hope girlfriend has cleaned windows!
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Posted: 01/05/2007 at 12:54pm |
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depends on the glue/rubber combo you have as well. Stiga energy probably won't work too well on h3 because it's too thin to soften up the sponge.
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Posted: 01/07/2007 at 5:24am |
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How about Bryce and Fair Chack?
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Posted: 03/09/2007 at 12:48pm |
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How about Bryce and Fair Chack?
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Posted: 03/09/2007 at 2:03pm |
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How about Bryce and Fair Chack?
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Posted: 03/09/2007 at 3:50pm |
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bryce and fair chack are designed to work with each other.
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Posted: 03/09/2007 at 5:26pm |
 That was a long time ago... We only applied a very small amount of glue and din't stretch the rubbers at al... Now I know, ig I glue the right way, the speed increase will be of epic preportions. I don't like that, so I try to glue the old fashioned way, but I wanted to clearify that speed glue is called speedglue for a reason and I have realized why 
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Posted: 03/09/2007 at 5:41pm |
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I use XT glued on my backhand, where I take a big stroke and brush the ball heavily. When I glue up, this adds tremendous spin and speed to my shots. However, I will agree that flat hitting with so soft a glued rubber really "bottoms out" on my shots. The ball tends to sail and have less spin when the ball bites through to my Kreanga Carbon.
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