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Bty Viscaria vs Dhs W997/W968/Long5

Koto/arylatecarbon/limba/kiri Vs limba/ayous/arylatecarbon/kiri
Same thickness 5,7-5,9. Dhs is more bigger (153x162) then Viscaria (150x157). Same weight (maybe "ayous" is more lighter of "koto"). Handle Viscaria is larger then Dhs.

What is more fast? Spinniest?
Dwell time? Stiffest?

I think (not try Dhs blades) Viscaria is more fast because W997 have same construction of Bty Innerforce (limba/limba/fiber/kiri) but i am not sure.

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One thing I'm sure.  Your chance of getting a fake is much higher for the latter.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Ok
But if anyone is tried a original Dhs blade?
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As there are more fake than real goods on the market, your chance of getting a "genuine feedback" is rather low.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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But there are Original Dhs Hurricane long 5.
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Yes, and the market is also flooded with bogus HL-5.

Edited by zeio - 08/16/2015 at 11:33am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Played with both. If you buy the HL 5 make sure to buy it at an authorized DHS shop.
Why do you want to change your blade and what are you using now?
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I played Custom Viscaria, "normal" Viscaria and Innerforce (and more other). Actually i use artigianal blade "Animus" Made in Italy with same configuration Viscaria (Made with koto/limba/arylatecarbon/kiri) but the carbon fiber is "Inner".


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The HL 5 has Limba outer compared to Koto as the Viscaria has.
Dwell HL5>Viscaria
Stiffness Viscaria>HL5
Vibration HL5>Viscaria

I would say that HL5 is heavier than Vis... Haven't seen a Vis at 94g for a long time.

Preferred weight for HL5 is 92-94g where Viscaria is around 90g or just below IMO.
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The weight of my normal Viscarias is 88-91 gr. Special Viscaria is 94 gr and it is more stiff and fast.
I think Viscaria is more powerful then HL5. HL 5 have more control and it is soft?
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Originally posted by Luca abbatiello Luca abbatiello wrote:

Bty Viscaria vs Dhs W997/W968/Long5

Koto/arylatecarbon/limba/kiri Vs limba/ayous/arylatecarbon/kiri
Same thickness 5,7-5,9. Dhs is more bigger (153x162) then Viscaria (150x157). Same weight (maybe "ayous" is more lighter of "koto"). Handle Viscaria is larger then Dhs.

What is more fast? Spinniest?
Dwell time? Stiffest?

I think (not try Dhs blades) Viscaria is more fast because W997 have same construction of Bty Innerforce (limba/limba/fiber/kiri) but i am not sure.



your info is wrong to start with.
the core of hlv/wxxx is ayous, not kiri.
ayous is much softer and slower than kiri.
add to this that 2nd ply of hlvwx is ayous and draw conclusions.
hlvwx is slower and the feel is almost like an all wood blade.
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Originally posted by Luca abbatiello Luca abbatiello wrote:

The weight of my normal Viscarias is 88-91 gr. Special Viscaria is 94 gr and it is more stiff and fast.
I think Viscaria is more powerful then HL5. HL 5 have more control and it is soft?
Yeah it is it flexes more and have more control IMO. It is relatively stiff but not much as Viscaria.
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Originally posted by minja minja wrote:

Originally posted by Luca abbatiello Luca abbatiello wrote:

Bty Viscaria vs Dhs W997/W968/Long5

Koto/arylatecarbon/limba/kiri Vs limba/ayous/arylatecarbon/kiri
Same thickness 5,7-5,9. Dhs is more bigger (153x162) then Viscaria (150x157). Same weight (maybe "ayous" is more lighter of "koto"). Handle Viscaria is larger then Dhs.

What is more fast? Spinniest?
Dwell time? Stiffest?

I think (not try Dhs blades) Viscaria is more fast because W997 have same construction of Bty Innerforce (limba/limba/fiber/kiri) but i am not sure.



your info is wrong to start with.
the core of hlv/wxxx is ayous, not kiri.
ayous is much softer and slower than kiri.
add to this that 2nd ply of hlvwx is ayous and draw conclusions.
hlvwx is slower and the feel is almost like an all wood blade.


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Ok. Thank you.
HL5 feeling is close to Bty Innerforce Alc?
I think that it can be a bit more fast.
Es.
Speed= Viscaria>Maze Alc>HL5> Innerforce Alc
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the design of hl5wx is just horrible.
the handle is very thin and the head super big.
also it's a very heavy blade, 94 or 95 g is normal.
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Originally posted by minja minja wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Dude who cares about your playing level and game knowledge? What equipment are you using?


Hello sir, thank you for your patience.

I use everything national.
My blade is national DHS w997 specially created for Ma Long.
My FH is DHS HURRICANE III National Blue Sponge.
My BH is Butterfly Tenergy 05 National.

I recommend to all forum members not to use regular products.
You are worth more than that.

And yet this clownClown claimed he loves and uses the w997 in his introduction thread, which the w997 has the similar shape and center of gravity as the HL5. 

To all fellow member who are on this thread, just take a grain of salt when reading anything from minja. 
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Originally posted by qualizon qualizon wrote:

Originally posted by minja minja wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Dude who cares about your playing level and game knowledge? What equipment are you using?


Hello sir, thank you for your patience.

I use everything national.
My blade is national DHS w997 specially created for Ma Long.
My FH is DHS HURRICANE III National Blue Sponge.
My BH is Butterfly Tenergy 05 National.

I recommend to all forum members not to use regular products.
You are worth more than that.

And yet this clownClown claimed he loves and uses the w997 in his introduction thread, which the w997 has the similar shape and center of gravity as the HL5. 

To all fellow member who are on this thread, just take a grain of salt when reading anything from minja. 


jealous...
just go back to training, you'll reach 2560 eventually


Edited by minja - 08/16/2015 at 8:06pm
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lol minja again...
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Originally posted by MLfan MLfan wrote:

lol minja again...


Ask him to show you a video of himself playing. A number of us already did but he always ignores our request... such troll. I guess a self proclaimed 2550 doesn't have any videos of himself training or playing matches.

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