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Lanuk
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Posted: 05/05/2016 at 6:39pm |
I am a college student who has been playing recreational table tennis for around 7 years and would like to step up my game. Currently I own a Killerspin Jet500 pre-assembled paddle. The people that have been teaching me always criticize this "cheap paddle" and now that I have had it for several years, I think it is time to buy a better quality paddle/rubber.
I do not want anything too expensive (under $70 for the blade if possible) and since I know very little about blades/rubber I might opt for something that can be assembled for me. One option I considered was the DHS A5002 on Amazon, but reviews said this was a ripoff and not the actual paddle. Another was the STIGA Evolution and STIGA Pro Carbon paddles. As for my playstyle, I am still experimenting and would describe myself as an all-rounder. I mostly play defensively, but am very aggressive on my backhand side. I would prefer something that allows me to generate a lot of topspin, but is not too heavy/dense (such as my current paddle) so I can have better control. I use the shakehand grip. Any general recommendations?
Edited by Lanuk - 05/05/2016 at 6:42pm |
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Nasche
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Look at this thread: Most of those blades should be good for someone at your level and there are plenty of options in the $70 price range. There are off- and some all+ among them. Edited by Nasche - 05/05/2016 at 6:58pm |
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mjamja
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A standard reply here on the forum for those in your situation and who live in the US is to check out Reading his descriptions of rubbers and blades can give you some insight into what different kind of options are generally available (not just at his site). You can also e-mail him or call him and discuss options from his offerings. When you talk about being defensive it would help if you could provide more detail such as do you block or chop block close to the table, or back off and block, or back off and chop , or back off and lob or hit lots of higher slow topspin, or back off and just get the ball back anyway you can. Also on the aggressive Bh do you loop, hit flat (no spin), or punch block and is it generally from close to table, mid-range, or far back. Our club just bought some of his "Pre-made Busters" and a couple of players who came in with their own recreational pre-made rackets tried them and now ask for them whenever they come in. I personally used the Dawei Matrix blade and the Inspirit Quattro Ultralight rubbers for about 5 years while playing between a USATT rating of 1500-1900. That combination might be a little faster than you want (or can control) especially if you tend to be more defensive. Another on-line dealer with good entry level priced equipment is ZeroPong. They are very good about discussing choices on the phone. Good luck. I bet you will really enjoy a step up in racket performance. Paddle Palace offers more well known brands of equipment, but most of that is higher priced than the equipment at Coles or ZeroPong. But some combinations would still be in your price range Mark Edited by mjamja - 05/05/2016 at 8:08pm |
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Lanuk
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Thanks for the advice! I have looked at Coles but I am still not quite sure how to build my paddle from scratch. Since I am still experimenting with my style, I am not completely sure how to answer your question but I will do my best. I like to stay relatively close to the table and hit my backhands quick off the bounce. I do not loop my backhand usually, and my shots are rather flat (or, I do a sort of punch block as you described) On my forehand I tend to block a lot (again, relatively close to the table) and tend to get the ball back however I can, but I am learning to back off and hit loops/shots with more topsin. Also trying to learn to chop block but it is not vibing with me (perhaps because I have very low control with my paddle and it is hard to get fast shots back on the table) I am not sure if this information helps at all, but based on this, what might you recommend for a blade/rubber?
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Lanuk
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In addition, at paddle pallace I was considering was the DHS A5002, but I have seen conflicting posts about it being a "beginner" paddle (so I wasn't sure if it'd be suited for me in the long term) and to not use hurricane III rubber unless you know for sure what you want.
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ronakvyas86
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Please, do not buy a premade paddle if you want your skills to grow, it's a bad idea. I found out the hard way, after spending more than a 100 dollars on crappy premade paddles. Buy two sheets of Yasaka's Mark V rubber and put them on Donic Appelgren Allplay blade. This is a very decent and economical setup that you can get at about 80-100 dollars.
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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mjamja
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I think you would do very well with the DW2 1.8mm version of the "Premade Buster". If you are willing to except the idea that you might need to change something before it actually wears out because you do not like it, then you could order a paddle with 2 different kinds of rubbers. Something like Dawei DW2 blade SuperXP 2.0 rubber (non-tacky and medium speed) FXEl 1.5 rubber (tacky and slower speed control) As a combo purchase that would not cost much more than the "Premade Buster" If you have a lot of confidence in your ability to control a faster set-up than the Jet500 then a Dawei Matrix blade SuperXP 2.0 mm SuperXP 2.0 mm or FXEL 1.5 mm would be a possible choice. Since I am not that familiar with the Jet500 it is a little difficult to make a strong recommendation. That is why I would e-mail or talk to Cole and find out what he knows about the speed and spin of a Jet 500 and what he would consider a step (but not too big step) up from that set-up. Maybe you could hit with or even just bounce balls on a couple of your friends better paddles and see if there is big difference, mild difference, or no real difference in speed and spin. If you post what they have and how it feels in comparison to the Jet500 it would be easier to make a better recommendation. Removing and regluing rubber seems kind of scary at first. However, with a paddle from Coles that was glued with rubber cement it is easy to remove the old rubber and if you use rubber cement yourself it is simple to glue on and cut a new sheet to size. Water based glues can be a little more difficult to use at first. I am sure that you could find someone to help you out at the Spokane club if what you had originally bought needed to be changed. Premades (not sure about Jet series) are often glued with permanent glue and it is nearly impossible to change out the rubber on those. Sorry for not being more decisive, but without seeing you play and testing the racket you use now it is a little more of a guessing game than a mathematical calculation. Mark |
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lineup32
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5 Ply wood blades under $50.00 probably rated from All to Off-. develop your stroke and feel for the ball. Cole would be a good place to start.
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Lanuk
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Thanks Mark, I talked to Cole who recommended the Dawei Matrix with Illumina rubber as this is supposedly a good deal right now. I still don't really know the differences between the different rubbers too well, but how do you think an allround player would fare with this?
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lineup32
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I have used Illumina from Cole and found them both effective and durable. I played with them for a couple years and have since moved on but They should work well with your blade and give you excellent value for your money and fun to play and develop your game plus they are very cost effective.
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mjamja
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I agree with lineup32. Matrix is a great blade and will serve you well through quite a bit of improvement. Even if you find the Illumina/Matrix combination a little too fast it will be easy to cheaply replace the rubbers with something a little slower when they do wear out and still keep the Matrix. And if it is not too fast it should work well for you even if you continue to improve quite a bit. A general guide (very general) is to replace your rubber the same number of times a year that you play (2-3 hr session) a week. So if you play twice a week (2-3hrs per time) then you should think about replacing you rubber twice a year (every 6 months). It at least gives you a guide as to when to start watching for excessive wear, loss of spin, or loss of speed with the rubber. Of course if you are an equipment junkie you do it at least twice that often. Please write back and let us know what you finally got and how it is working for you. It will make a great data point for future recommendations for others in your situation. Mark |
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ericd937
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You could also look for used equipment in the for sale section of this forum. If you get something that you end up not liking, you can trade in that section too. I would advise you to start out with an all wood blade rated all+ or off- and get rubbers that aren't Max sponge. Try 1.9 or 2.0, it will offer heaps more control. Most beginners think that they should buy the fasted and most advanced stuff available, this equipment would impede your progress.
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Try the reactor k1 blade with reactor ckylin black and sanwei a+ unstickt rubbers from megaspin
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A good website for you with a lot of info: North Little Rock Table Tennis Group Timeline Page on Facebook It is for Seniors but also applicable to adult recreational hobby players who are at a beginner's thru intermediate skill level. |
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