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Proper distance from table for each play style? |
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baribari
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Posted: 08/16/2016 at 1:57am |
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Can someone tell me what the typical distance from the table is for each play style?
How close is a close-in attacker? How far is an attacking looper? What about a chopper?
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I can play all those styles. I like to start 3 feet/1 meter from table. I only go back if the rally makes it necessary.
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Luckyloop, Is that distance from table to racket in ready position, table to toe on closest foot, table to waist, or something else? I ask because if I get down and lean forward in the "classic" ready position there is a noticeable difference in those measurements listed above. If I take my normal standing straight up, square feet, narrow feet stance then the way you measure does not make that much difference. Mark |
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What is your level with each of these styles? Trying to put your advice in context...
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Close to the table is usually 3 ft or 1 meter/yard. Mid distance is usually about 2m or yards or 6 ft. Some may extend that to 3m or 9 ft. Beyond that is long distance. Depending on the power and level of the players, the chopper will usually be at greater than mid distance and the attacking close to the table player will be at 3 ft though male players tend to go to 6 ft because of the power on the ball if they are in looping rallies. |
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In most Chinese textbooks, close to the table is defined as 50cm and below, mid-distance as 50-100cm, and long distance as 100cm and beyond.
Some may further break it down into mid-close distance(50-70cm) and mid-long distance(70-100cm). The distance is calculated from the endline to the stance. As to the OP's question, nowadays there are no hard and fast rules for the proper distance for playing style in the pros world, as every player should be capable of playing at all distance. Still, for the fast-attacking style, players strive to stay close to the table as the style loses its effectiveness as the distance increases. For the looping style, the range can span across all distance, but players tend to stay within mid-distance. For the modern defensive style, the range is usually mid-long distance. Edited by zeio - 08/16/2016 at 2:13pm |
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More important than the distance from table I believe it´s the level you take the ball.
A close-to-the-table player must take the ball on the rise or at the peak of the bounce. I play like that because I use short pips and must block everything on the rise. Smashes must be taken at the ball peak, but sometimes I hit smashes on the rise to cut my opponent reaction time. |
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By to the stance, do you mean the waist? I would have thought close to the table mean you'd basically have your feet under the edge of the table... |
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Who plays at six feet back as a matter of course? Nine feet?! It almost sounds like you're talking about the maximum distance anyone will ever retreat rather than the average distance someone chooses to stand from the table in order to hit the kind of shots they want to hit. Don't people who play close to the table basically have their feet just past (or even under) the edge of the table? I take it usually those are people using penhold and super-sticky rubbers or shakehands with short pips. It probably takes someone with extremely fast reaction times.
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Table to waist, closest foot, I don't like to get jammed. I have a narrow stance too. It is easier to move in than back for me. Edited by LUCKYLOOP - 08/17/2016 at 1:05am |
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The body. You want to keep a small distance b/w your body and the table because moving forward is easier and thus quicker than moving backward, so you avoid getting caught up by deep shots. |
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Advanced, can do all shots of the game. When playing long pips chopping style, use chop block technique so still at 3 feet unless necessary to back up during rally. Edited by LUCKYLOOP - 08/17/2016 at 1:20am |
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good luck on trying to get a actual playing (rating) level out of LuckyLoop. I'm sure you remember his thread about " new class rating system" when he was asked multiple times what his rating (assuming he has one of course)was and he just ignored it every time he was asked. |
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One more question... If someone is a looper who plays for 5-6 back, how does one move back during a point after the return? Do you start close for the return, then move back for the third ball, and then move back again for the fifth ball?
I can't imagine they make the return and then move all the way back on every point. You'd just get drop shotted every time.
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My ready position is a little more than an arm's length from the table. When I'm serving (which is done close to the table) right after the ball leaves my bat I get back into my ready position which, for me, is ideal for third ball attack. If the opponent pushes short & close to the net then I move close in a way that I only have to take one step which is moving my left foot (I'm a lefty) forward where it goes under the table while my right foot mostly stays where it is unless the return is too wide. This way I can easily reach the ball with an extended arm to either a flick or a push, and then I return back to my ready position. Edited by ronakvyas86 - 08/17/2016 at 2:45am |
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