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    Posted: 12/26/2016 at 2:37pm
Is there anything you can do if your glue solidifies due to low temperature? Tried to use my Butterfly Free Chack after a while, and it was like a piece of rock, completely unusable. Did anyone have similar issues? Would help if i tried to heat the bottle in some boiling water?
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Originally posted by louisc louisc wrote:

Is there anything you can do if your glue solidifies due to low temperature? Tried to use my Butterfly Free Chack after a while, and it was like a piece of rock, completely unusable. Did anyone have similar issues? Would help if i tried to heat the bottle in some boiling water?

No, not really.  Time to buy more. 

Once the latex in VOC free glues coagulates into solid rubber, there is no going back.  The latex is not "dissolved" in the water so much as small un-linked bits of latex are suspended.  This may not be technically correct from a chemists point of view, but it should get the general idea across.  But whatever the technical realities, once it solidifies, it is not water soluble.   You could dissolve it in rubber cement thinner, but the thinner costs about as much per volume as rubber cement, and is, of course, about 100% VOC. So your homemade rubber cement would not be VOC free.


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Thanks for your post. Very informative...
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To avoid the nightmare of cleaning VOC free glues(tried many) I bought me few liters of good old normal glue. I am happy again
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Gave up on water based glue. I just use cheap rubber cemment.
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Frankly , from the moment I started being an EJ I am still trying to figure out what exactly is a rubber cement, but so far without a success. It probably exist but under different name
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.....I mean here in Belgium.....
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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Frankly , from the moment I started being an EJ I am still trying to figure out what exactly is a rubber cement, but so far without a success. It probably exist but under different name
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People in Belgium speak 3 different languages:  Dutch, French and German.

So try to find: (Also, Belgium has so many TT players, they may be able to tell you where to buy.)

(Dutch)  Rubber cement
(French) Ciment de caoutchouc
(German) Kautschukzement


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I'd look in hardware or arts/crafts store. Here in US Elmers brand is pretty much everywhere. 
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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Frankly , from the moment I started being an EJ I am still trying to figure out what exactly is a rubber cement, but so far without a success. It probably exist but under different name

If it helps, it is essentially raw rubber dissolved in Heptane (used to be Hexane as well, but Heptan is less toxic). 

It looks like Velpon photo glue might be regular old rubber cement.  Hard to say though. It is odd that it is sold in a tube rather than a jar with a brush.
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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

It looks like Velpon photo glue might be regular old rubber cement.  Hard to say though. It is odd that it is sold in a tube rather than a jar with a brush.

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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

It looks like Velpon photo glue might be regular old rubber cement.  Hard to say though. It is odd that it is sold in a tube rather than a jar with a brush.


Right.  That's what I found.  But I couldn't verify what it is made from at that page or any other. 
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