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Originally posted by vispowerspin vispowerspin wrote:

Right now I'm using 2 "authentic W968", trivial and questionable, but I spent too much to throw them away hahaha. Anyways, initially, it reminded me of the W968 replicas (a lot of vibration). But after the break in period (perhaps due to humidity, moisture absorption, constant gluing... etc. ~ 1-2 weeks) the blade feels better (softer) than the new commercial HL5 (can be subjective, relative and bias of me). Compared to the commercial HL5, the W968 provides higher arc.


The authentic W968 is always more harder, faster but surprisingly better control than HL5 or the W968 Replicas. What number do you have?
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Number 279 and 127. I think the 127 is better. On the first day yes, it is hard and stiff. But after a while, I personally think it softens a little up due to moisture and glue residue.
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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Originally posted by vispowerspin vispowerspin wrote:

Right now I'm using 2 "authentic W968", trivial and questionable, but I spent too much to throw them away hahaha. Anyways, initially, it reminded me of the W968 replicas (a lot of vibration). But after the break in period (perhaps due to humidity, moisture absorption, constant gluing... etc. ~ 1-2 weeks) the blade feels better (softer) than the new commercial HL5 (can be subjective, relative and bias of me). Compared to the commercial HL5, the W968 provides higher arc.


The authentic W968 is always more harder, faster but surprisingly better control than HL5 or the W968 Replicas. What number do you have?


How much does an authentic w968 cost nowadays? And where about can you purchase one?
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You can talk to Chen Chen on the table tennis daily forums. He sells authentic w968 and is very reputable on the forums. I trust him way more than places like prott and ttnpp. He usually sells for like ~370 UK dollars (pounds). I personally want one but decided to hold off on it because if I want to get a blade that expensive, I want to know how it feels first because that's the most important in playing.
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Originally posted by Stanny Stanny wrote:

You can talk to Chen Chen on the table tennis daily forums. He sells authentic w968 and is very reputable on the forums. I trust him way more than places like prott and ttnpp. He usually sells for like ~370 UK dollars (pounds). I personally want one but decided to hold off on it because if I want to get a blade that expensive, I want to know how it feels first because that's the most important in playing.


Yeah you are correct, I don't plan to spend that much for a blade, not anytime soon that is haha

I just got my second HL5 from tt11 weighing about 92 grams.

Do you speak chinese by any chance? Wanted to know what information is mentioned on that RED CARD which comes in the box :P

Maybe @MVCSGN or @MLfan can help translate :P


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As I stated priorly, TTNPP sells the REPLICA not AUTHENTIC. The commercial HL5 plays equally well and at the end of the day it all comes down to basics and skills. Unless you're an EJ, no point in getting an authentic W968.

@peter79 helped me confirmed PROTT W968 are authentic through email and pictures, just the make numbers are high.

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Originally posted by vispowerspin vispowerspin wrote:

As I stated priorly, TTNPP sells the REPLICA not AUTHENTIC. The commercial HL5 plays equally well and at the end of the day it all comes down to basics and skills. Unless you're an EJ, no point in getting an authentic W968.

@peter79 helped me confirmed PROTT W968 are authentic through email and pictures, just the make numbers are high.


Blind tests are good when one of the blades is over $300.
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Originally posted by Stanny Stanny wrote:

You can talk to Chen Chen on the table tennis daily forums. He sells authentic w968 and is very reputable on the forums. I trust him way more than places like prott and ttnpp. He usually sells for like ~370 UK dollars (pounds). I personally want one but decided to hold off on it because if I want to get a blade that expensive, I want to know how it feels first because that's the most important in playing.


@Stanny have you used Tenergy 05 and 80 on this blade? I just tried tenergy 05 on my FH and 80 on my BH for the first time on my HL5 and boy am I in love with tenergy rubbers lol

Tenergy 05 seemed too bouncy, felt crazy fast on fast strokes (faster than MX-P) and has less control especially when receiving spiny serves, the ball would pop-up too much for my liking and if I felt it doesn't allow you to feel the ball that well, which is my playing style. Whereas, when I tried tenergy 80 on my FH I felt it had amazing control and it felt like I couldn't miss a single shot and it had great spin but it felt a bit slow (slower than 05 definitely but also slower than MX-P).

I will try these rubbers more in the upcoming week to decide which rubber I should keep on my FH.
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Originally posted by unstopabl3 unstopabl3 wrote:

Originally posted by Stanny Stanny wrote:

You can talk to Chen Chen on the table tennis daily forums. He sells authentic w968 and is very reputable on the forums. I trust him way more than places like prott and ttnpp. He usually sells for like ~370 UK dollars (pounds). I personally want one but decided to hold off on it because if I want to get a blade that expensive, I want to know how it feels first because that's the most important in playing.


@Stanny have you used Tenergy 05 and 80 on this blade? I just tried tenergy 05 on my FH and 80 on my BH for the first time on my HL5 and boy am I in love with tenergy rubbers lol

Tenergy 05 seemed too bouncy, felt crazy fast on fast strokes (faster than MX-P) and has less control especially when receiving spiny serves, the ball would pop-up too much for my liking and if I felt it doesn't allow you to feel the ball that well, which is my playing style. Whereas, when I tried tenergy 80 on my FH I felt it had amazing control and it felt like I couldn't miss a single shot and it had great spin but it felt a bit slow (slower than 05 definitely but also slower than MX-P).

I will try these rubbers more in the upcoming week to decide which rubber I should keep on my FH.

I had Tenergy 05 on my backhand and it is bouncy when you start engaging the sponge. I twiddle it on my forehand when I'm making powerful smashes because Hurricane is not good for smashing. The forehand loops are devastating and pairs quite well with the HL5. Close to the net shots were a bit hard to control especially when the ball clips the net and gets some extra spin. Ball will always fly out even when I close my angle when I try to hit it flat. It's a bit more accurate when I add spin by using a flick but not as accurate as I would like. Touchplay is really good, especially for serve receives but sometimes like you say, it can be hard to feel the ball. In general I like t05 for the FH because of the loops and touchplay in keeping the ball low but BH is quite a nightmare. Only thing good about the BH is the touch play shots and BH flicks (although flicks can be challenging as well since I don't feel the grip that well on the plastic ball). Opening BH loop is pretty inconsistent compared to lots of rubbers I used. And the feel isn't as prominent as I would like as you have mentioned. I've recently just changed my BH to andro rasant grip which is slightly heavier but this is increased feel. I had the rubber cut 1-2 mm wider than the head size and the weight changed from 183g to 187g. Touchplay is really good, even better than tenergy 05 in my opinion. The grip on the ball is incredible, my opening BH flicks are nice and low and my opening BH loop percentage has went up considerably (I'd say from like 20-30% to like 70-80% which was what it was when I was playing with my other rackets). Only downside is after the first loop I gotta remember to flick or add spin to the ball a bit when it comes back otherwise it hits the top of the net. Still working on this with my coach but my coach says it's a big improvement. Still in the honeymoon phase, so I got to play a bit more to see if I really like it, but so far so good. The control is very good. Only cons I would say is the heavy weight, the spin sensitivity (people have mentioned this, but I don't see it as a problem), and the low arc (pairs well with the HL5 which has the catapult effect, so it evens out).

Tenergy 80, I have it on my viscaria as a BH but I have used it on the FH when I've twiddled the racket. T80 in my opinion has a lot of control, way better than T05. Spin is slightly weaker so if your FH loop is very spin dominant, you might not have much power. I like the T80 more for flat hitting and it has just enough grip to get my BH flicks done but not as much as T05. Pushes and touchplay are good as well.
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Originally posted by Stanny Stanny wrote:

Originally posted by unstopabl3 unstopabl3 wrote:

Originally posted by Stanny Stanny wrote:

You can talk to Chen Chen on the table tennis daily forums. He sells authentic w968 and is very reputable on the forums. I trust him way more than places like prott and ttnpp. He usually sells for like ~370 UK dollars (pounds). I personally want one but decided to hold off on it because if I want to get a blade that expensive, I want to know how it feels first because that's the most important in playing.


@Stanny have you used Tenergy 05 and 80 on this blade? I just tried tenergy 05 on my FH and 80 on my BH for the first time on my HL5 and boy am I in love with tenergy rubbers lol

Tenergy 05 seemed too bouncy, felt crazy fast on fast strokes (faster than MX-P) and has less control especially when receiving spiny serves, the ball would pop-up too much for my liking and if I felt it doesn't allow you to feel the ball that well, which is my playing style. Whereas, when I tried tenergy 80 on my FH I felt it had amazing control and it felt like I couldn't miss a single shot and it had great spin but it felt a bit slow (slower than 05 definitely but also slower than MX-P).

I will try these rubbers more in the upcoming week to decide which rubber I should keep on my FH.

I had Tenergy 05 on my backhand and it is bouncy when you start engaging the sponge. I twiddle it on my forehand when I'm making powerful smashes because Hurricane is not good for smashing. The forehand loops are devastating and pairs quite well with the HL5. Close to the net shots were a bit hard to control especially when the ball clips the net and gets some extra spin. Ball will always fly out even when I close my angle when I try to hit it flat. It's a bit more accurate when I add spin by using a flick but not as accurate as I would like. Touchplay is really good, especially for serve receives but sometimes like you say, it can be hard to feel the ball. In general I like t05 for the FH because of the loops and touchplay in keeping the ball low but BH is quite a nightmare. Only thing good about the BH is the touch play shots and BH flicks (although flicks can be challenging as well since I don't feel the grip that well on the plastic ball). Opening BH loop is pretty inconsistent compared to lots of rubbers I used. And the feel isn't as prominent as I would like as you have mentioned. I've recently just changed my BH to andro rasant grip which is slightly heavier but this is increased feel. I had the rubber cut 1-2 mm wider than the head size and the weight changed from 183g to 187g. Touchplay is really good, even better than tenergy 05 in my opinion. The grip on the ball is incredible, my opening BH flicks are nice and low and my opening BH loop percentage has went up considerably (I'd say from like 20-30% to like 70-80% which was what it was when I was playing with my other rackets). Only downside is after the first loop I gotta remember to flick or add spin to the ball a bit when it comes back otherwise it hits the top of the net. Still working on this with my coach but my coach says it's a big improvement. Still in the honeymoon phase, so I got to play a bit more to see if I really like it, but so far so good. The control is very good. Only cons I would say is the heavy weight, the spin sensitivity (people have mentioned this, but I don't see it as a problem), and the low arc (pairs well with the HL5 which has the catapult effect, so it evens out).

Tenergy 80, I have it on my viscaria as a BH but I have used it on the FH when I've twiddled the racket. T80 in my opinion has a lot of control, way better than T05. Spin is slightly weaker so if your FH loop is very spin dominant, you might not have much power. I like the T80 more for flat hitting and it has just enough grip to get my BH flicks done but not as much as T05. Pushes and touchplay are good as well.


Thanks for your detailed reply, it seems both of us have similar review of tenergy 05 and 80 on this blade. I am going to try it for another week and then if I don't see any improvement, I will switch back to MX-P and EL-P/EL-S and use the tenergy on my Viscaria or YEO 7 Power, which are slower than this blade and see if that improves the game play.

Will update in a few days :)
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