Bad rubbers

1dennistt wrote: For me that rubber was Tibhar Grip S Europe, my comments on this rubber would parallel your's for Beijing 4, exactly the same.  Couldn't figure out what went wrong at the time...but never tried it again to see if it was a quality control problem or just one bad sheet.

Knuckle Ball wrote: Those difficult to use effectively at your current style and skill level.  So the bad rubbers for me have changed much over the course of many years. Calibra LT I found too bouncy and too fast. Trajectory too flat, couldn't get enough spin on low and medium effort strokes or loops. That was a few years ago when it first came out, now my skill level has improved and I find it not too bad. A few years ago, I actually hated T05, too spin sensitive, hard to control, too fast so bouncy. Now I can use it for an active offensive style of play and I believe it is the best rubber for FH and BH. It may be bad rubber cause I don't know how to use it. Bryce Speed which I first used a few months ago I initially labeled 'bad rubber'. Couldn't generate decent spin on loops, too fast. Drive angle was all wrong, push had less spin, must have given up on it but by just sheer luck, tried switching it to my BH side. Now something just clicked in; insensitive to incoming spin so great service receive, very good and solid for blocks with stinging punchblocks. Great at smashing high spinny loops, fantastic at counters and smashing put aways. What I initially thought as 'bad rubber' was in fact a 'plug n play' rubber for my BH. Just need time to learn how to use it. crap rubber for some may be gold for others.  A club mate gave me two pieces of ten year old Srivers red and black. I stuck it on the BHs of two separate blades. I didn't mind if it has lost most of its spin as I used to play with anti rubbers on my BH. It turned out to be two of my most effective setups, good service receive, great control on blocks, I can chop block on the table and chop from afar. Inconsistency in the spin generation of the rubber drove my opponents nuts. Blocks against drives and loops sometimes gave back less spin, no spin, sinking knuckle balls.

From what you are writing it seems this is the result of you preferring low throw angle rubbers on your backhand.

Both the Calibra LT and Bryce family of rubbers are known for being good inverted rubbers to switch to for people that are used to short pips. They help alleviate the mid-distance weakness of short pips while retaining the spin insensitivity and lower trajectory that are the strong suits of short pips, at least as close as possible for inverted rubber.

Low throw angle is often a dirty term for many, especially on the forehand, but for those that seek it or benefit from it those rubbers are a pretty good choice.

The worst of the lot for me was Stiga's Magna TCII. Not sure if the regular magna was any good but ordered this one under the assumption that it would be close to Boost TC or be something similar in that range. It turned out to be a dud. It has such a low throw and no speed, no power...just control. Don't know what it is good for because if you try using that control on the forehand, then the rubber lands into the net. If you try using it on the backhand, there isn't enough spring to land the ball across the net. And then there is Tibhar's Grip-S. Such a huge quality control disaster. The first sheet that I bought was amazing to play with. It was a dream. The moment I removed its glue layer though, it became a piece of shit.