Joola Prime 40+ ABS ball

ericd937 wrote: osmar92 wrote: as i said above if you play with regular rubber not much of the difference , it is anti and pips which affected substantially Actually I find that if you play with hard inverted rubber, some of the balls aren't hard enough to get the sponge working properly on a regular basis. Double Fish and DHS balls are the worst for me. They suck!

SmackDAT wrote: benfb wrote: I just got to try out the Joola Flash today.  Apparently, that's the ball that they're going to use at the WVC.  I thought it wasn't bad, but the persona who owned it swears by it (but he also likes the XuShaFa balls). Now I'll have to try the Prime? Anyway, I had the impression that the Flash was seamless but ABS balls are seamed. Flash and Xushaofa are great balls, as well as DHS D40

ITTF is either failing to maintain a standard or colluding with the manufacturers to keep changing the material of the TT balls. First came 40 cell, then 40+ plastic and now ABS which all play differently and there are 10's of different options i.e seam or no seam and different companies which you have to try in order to find the ball you like with the rubber/bat setup you like. It's a never ending monopoly of ITTF+manufacturers which makes the players keep spending more and more.

Unless you are a semi-pro or a pro player who can play multiple hours each day and get free stuff from their sponsors, it's very hard to adjust to all of these stupid changes in a short time and also hard on pocket.

I got used to Joola Flash, which was a good bouncy and spiny ball, only issue was bad durability, and now they introduced Joola Prime, which IMO is a bit heavier, has less bounce, speed and spin. But have to AGAIN adjust to this new ball since Joola Flash seems to have been discontinued.

/endrant

Edited by unstopabl3 - 10/19/2018 at 8:12am

pgpg wrote: unstopabl3 wrote: ITTF is either failing to maintain a standard or colluding with the manufacturers to keep changing the material of the TT balls. First came 40 plastic, then 40+ plastic and now ABS which all play differently and there are 10's of different options i.e seam or no seam and different companies which you have to try in order to find the ball you like with the rubber/bat setup you like. It's a never ending monopoly of ITTF+manufacturers which makes the players keep spending more and more. Unless you are a semi-pro or a pro player who can play multiple hours each day and get free stuff from their sponsors, it's very hard to adjust to all of these stupid changes in a short time and also hard on pocket. I got used to Joola Flash, which was a good bouncy and spiny ball, only issue was bad durability, and now they introduced Joola Prime, which IMO is a bit heavier, has less bounce, speed and spin. But have to AGAIN adjust to this new ball since Joola Flash seems to have been discontinued. /endrant Can you give an example of a '40 plastic' ball? I believe all plastic (non-celluloid) balls were 40+.

pgpg wrote: unstopabl3 wrote: ... Sorry, edited. But you get the gist of my rant :P Yep - stupid things are different enough so now there is a decent amount of arguments in our league on 'which ball to play with'. We don't have official one, so you end up playing with 3 different balls on the evening, because you have a dude with the shiniest worn out NP 40+ he swears is still the best ball in the universe, XSF fan, Joola Flash loyalist etc.  You can always pick one at random, but then 'loser' gets to complain all night on how he lost because of that. And we're talking more or less meaningless matches here - don't know how pros deal with that.

Edited by unstopabl3 - 10/19/2018 at 9:34am

Robert40 wrote: I hate xfs and tibhar,joola flash little bit better but still crap.Even the factorys changed with reason, (and many people complained ) only was good nittaku premium 40+.Now (from 2017) made by abs all much better than any poly ball dhs d40+ i very like etc.....I like all ,but still prefer branded (more pieces is rounded ) stiga,yasaka...etc than any unbranded xfu....pailo...yinha...