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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Rozena has been raking in tons of money for Butterfly in Japan. Their sales is back up to the 2010 level, the absolute peak before the global pricing policy went into effect.

Interesting to hear this... that confirms that it obviously does depend on the region & pricing, because I know it's selling quite poorly in some other countries.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/19/2018 at 3:57pm
It is one rubber I would like to try.  My Karis M seems to be immortal though.  Maybe There Can Be Only One.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote azv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/31/2018 at 11:45am
They're lowering the price in the US too

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/31/2018 at 5:38pm
Nice. ESN has gotta do something with those overpriced models.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Odie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/31/2018 at 10:36pm
$33 from prott.vip. Tenergy $65.
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At 25€---190yuan it could be a great replacement as a soft ESN BH rubber like M3/FXP-FXS series.
At 35€---40$ it might have some butterfly followers.
But at 45€ it´s not interesting at all, there are bunch of rubbers with better price&perfomance.

Surprisingly there´s no any news about the drop prices in Rozena in Europe. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DreiZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/02/2018 at 10:44pm
I don't see the price change on bty website for rozena yet.
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Paddle Palace for the time being, https://www.paddlepalace.com/Butterfly-Rozena/productinfo/RBRZA/

Edited by zeio - 09/03/2018 at 4:44am
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+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tt Gold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/03/2018 at 5:37am
Is rozena more like tenergy 05 or 64? I'm still looking for a spinnier forehand rubber

Edited by Tt Gold - 09/03/2018 at 5:38am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DreiZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/03/2018 at 12:49pm
Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

Is rozena more like tenergy 05 or 64? I'm still looking for a spinnier forehand rubber


I only tried it once but it felt like a tame child of 05 and 64. Softer than 05, probably best described as tame t80.
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I never liked Rozena .It's a good alternative to a premade rubber or for kids to learn on but not for someone who has used Tenergy or an ESN rubber.
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I used T80 for a few years. Now I am trying Rozena.

Rozena is like a T80 that is easier to control at low speeds, but gives up a little at the top end. I can switch between the two with very minor adjustments.

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Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

I never liked Rozena .It's a good alternative to a premade rubber or for kids to learn on but not for someone who has used Tenergy or an ESN rubber.
Isn't Rozena a Japanese "High Tension technology" rubber which is the equivalent of ESN Tensor? I don't think its as good as T05 or T64 but pretty close to the T(x)FXs. And its less than 1/2 the price of the Ts.
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For me the last 2 generation ESN rubbers are much better than Rozena. Rozena just feels bland to me. Ok speed,ok spin it's just all around ok. For me it's best attribute is it's not as sensitive to spin than a lot of rubbers. I'm not sure it's a good deal at $40. I'm sure there are people that love it or maybe it works better on a different blade than Viscaria.
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Will other brands drop their price to compete with Rozena ?
Any other rubbers give similar characteristic as Rozena ? Those rubbers maybe the fist line up to watch out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DonnOlsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2018 at 7:50am
[I only tried it once but it felt like a tame child of 05 and 64. Softer than 05, probably best described as tame t80.]

TAME!?  TAME!?  Who does tame??
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DreiZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2018 at 9:21am
Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

[<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">I only tried it once but it felt like a tame child of 05 and 64. Softer than 05, probably best described as tame t80.]</span>
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<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">TAME!?  TAME!?  Who does tame??</span>


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Rozena is a beast, not a good forehand rubber but amazing for the backhand

It's like a less reactive, slightly softer/slower version of Tenergy 80, for $33, what a steal! MX-P or T05 are better for the forehand by far though.
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Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I used T80 for a few years. Now I am trying Rozena.

Rozena is like a T80 that is easier to control at low speeds, but gives up a little at the top end. I can switch between the two with very minor adjustments.

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New price is now in effect at Butterflyonline and Megaspin.

Edited by zeio - 09/06/2018 at 1:21am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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