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    Posted: 08/09/2021 at 5:57pm

I’m interested in hearing how an unboosted Hurricane 3 NEO commercial goes on the forehand of thick hinoki carbon blade.


I have a 6.3mm hinoki-carbon blade (Joola Aruna Off+), with the same composition as the Primorac Carbon (Hinoki-Carbon-Kiri-Carbon-Hinoki), but it’s about 0.5mm thinner and therefore probably slightly slower and more controllable. 


I have found it difficult to control it with the Nittaku Fastarc G1 on the forehand and the Joola Rhyzm P on the backhand (both in Max), but the Fastarc G1 is nearly controllable on the backhand. Perhaps I should choose a hybrid rubber like the Nittaku Sieger PK50 for the backhand?


Would an unboosted Hurricane 3 NEO for the forehand tame this monster carbon blade a bit? Silly of me for buying a carbon monster blade as a high amateur/low intermediate, but the handle is so comfortable, the feel is great and I don’t really want to buy a new blade. 


I have heard a lot of conflicting opinions about combining Hurricane 3 NEO with hinoki carbon blades. Some say the hard rubber / soft hinoki outer ply feels great and that the Hurricane ‘tames’ the carbon blade, other people (ie coach Emrathich from PingSunday ) say the hard unboosted rubber / stiff carbon blade combination is awkward, lacks dwell time/spin creation ability and that the speed of the combination prevents the player making big swings that make Hurricane so effective and fun to play with. 


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pingsunday.com/top-10-best-competitive-ping-pong-paddles/amp/ (Emratthich’s opinions on paddles combinations)


I love looping with the Hurricane 3 Neo on my All+ 5 ply blade (for when I play modern defense). I want to be able to control big swing forehand top spins better. I normally play an aggressive two winged looping style and I am a non club high amateur/low intermediate. 


Does anyone have any experience with a thick Hinoki Carbon blade / Hurricane 3 Neo combination and can offer any advice?


Thanks very much and I’m sorry for repeating such a discussed topic!


Blade: Xiom Power Hinoki (J-pen)
Fh: Nittaku Fastarc G1 (Red, 2.0mm)
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Yinhe has blades of a similar composition as the Hinoki/Carbon/Kiri blades but with Cypress as a top layer. You can adjust the speed depending on what blade you buy:
T1s: Fastest
T2s: A little slower, said to be the Primorac structure
T6s: Still using Carbon, but slower than T2s (3 wood, 2 carbon)
T7s: Using ALC instead of Carbon, slower than T6s (3 wood, 2 ALC)
T8s: Faster than T7s (5 wood, 2 ALC)

The T7s feels roughly as fast as a 7-ply Limba top PD-437

So you can buy the blade which has the speed you want.


Edited by ejprinz - 08/09/2021 at 6:27pm
Yinhe 980XX, DHS Hurricane 3 Neo, Nittaku Wallest 1.0mm sponge.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonyer1980 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/10/2021 at 2:16am
Have you ever wondered about any super thick blade single Hinoki ply such as Darker Speed 90?
Rosewood V FL

Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH

Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH


Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing
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Originally posted by BlackCat510 BlackCat510 wrote:

I’m interested in hearing how an unboosted Hurricane 3 NEO commercial goes on the forehand of thick hinoki carbon blade.


Check out this discussion:


http://mytabletennis.net/forum/topic90417_page1.html#1116788

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It absolutely works in my case. I do have a very nice fast but controllable blade that is the Garaydia ZLC however. Butterfly blades are generally too much money for what you get but in this case, I am so pleased with the setup I would make an exception. The slow speed of the Hurricane added to the fast but controllable Garaydia is a very sweet combination. Why are you even asking? The rubber isn't very expensive, just do it.


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Not sure about carbon and H3. Always love H3 on Photino.
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Thanks very much for your great answer. I’ve been finding it difficult to find info on unboosted Hurricane. I’ll give it a go soon.
Blade: Xiom Power Hinoki (J-pen)
Fh: Nittaku Fastarc G1 (Red, 2.0mm)
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