Good Serves/Poor Serves, its up to you.

Here are a few chop serves I threw together earlier today. Give me your thoughts, I will share mine later.

Not a bad answer. Anyone else.

Let me first say, you do know how to make a lot of spin on the serve. That is a very positive thing, and it is very difficult for many people to do. But I must agree with ffx-me. The serve is a bit to short and high. Wait just a little bit, when you hit the ball. Also meant as, take it lower. Another thing is, the serve doesn�t have enough speed. The best short serve is a serve with max speed, and you can still get it to bounce twice on the other side of the table. Try to that that serve you just did, and try to get the second bounce (on the other side of the table) to hit the edge of the table. This way the opponent don�t know if he/she should loop or push. Good luck!

hallur wrote: Let me first say, you do know how to make a lot of spin on the serve. That is a very positive thing, and it is very difficult for many people to do. But I must agree with ffx-me. The serve is a bit to short and high. Wait just a little bit, when you hit the ball. Also meant as, take it lower. Another thing is, the serve doesn�t have enough speed. The best short serve is a serve with max speed, and you can still get it to bounce twice on the other side of the table. Try to that that serve you just did, and try to get the second bounce (on the other side of the table) to hit the edge of the table. This way the opponent don�t know if he/she should loop or push. Good luck!

yeah it lookd like you're being forced to do the server, it's looking boring.
maybe its because it was only a demonstration, but i think you should curve yourself more and hit with a little more impact

Looks like the rubber is doing most of the work, and you barely.
Teaching the kid backhands now?

kenneyy88 wrote: Looks like the rubber is doing most of the work, and you barely.

ffx-me wrote: I think you make the spin obvious with you motion and it bounces a bit high.  I would try to mask the spin and keep the ball lower so its less easy to flip and it goes a bit longer to only double bounce.  You dont want it to bounce to close to the net or else its too easy to flip no matter how much spin you put on it.

Exactly what I think.

jcdi wrote: MA LIN !!!   Your son is Timo Boll and you are Ma Lin ! What a family !

I would have to see the vid, but I suspect they were a little lower and probably faster. Serves like this just give too much time to get across and flick.

Thought I had better put the record straight. Here are some chop serves I might actually use in a game. 50% more spin than the ones above and a much better length (you'll have to take my word for that).

It's the wrist-snap (or lack of snap for a float) which makes a good deceptive serve since we can't hide it anymore. Must watch where I throw the ball up from though in case I get any keen umpires.

Tomorrow.

Might have to be Monday for the other vid as I am taking my daughter out for her birthday tomorrow. I will see how much time I have. will try to get the camera at the opponents eye level and throw in a few floats to see if people can pick them. You would be surprised how many very good opponents can't.

They can be placed anywhere but I mostly put that particular serve to the backhand or crossover. I have other serves I put wide to the backhand and forehand. The second serves are mainly backspin with a small amount of side, it is easier to see from the slow-mo shots. I have another serve with more backspin again which I use occasionally but I have much less control over the length of this one so very good opponents can sometimes loop it no matter how much you put on it.