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pingpungpeng 
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Recently had a period of wanting really slow stuff. I had a h3 national stored somewhere so I used it for some time. Thought it was ok, I had no basis for comparison. My previous rubber was a tenergy 05. Only recently I used a sanwei t88-I I also had stored for years. This made me realize what a bad rubber h3 is unboosted. It's hard as a brick, no speed, spin is bad. I mean comparing to chinese rubbers.... it's probably the worst. Maybe that's what makes it so good boosted... The idea is to stay with chinese rubbers, but I don't think I will be going back to h3.
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Recently had a period of wanting really slow stuff. I had a h3 national stored somewhere so I used it for some time. Thought it was ok, I had no basis for comparison. My previous rubber was a tenergy 05. Only recently I used a sanwei t88-I I also had stored for years. This made me realize what a bad rubber h3 is unboosted. It's hard as a brick, no speed, spin is bad. I mean comparing to chinese rubbers.... it's probably the worst. Maybe that's what makes it so good boosted... I originally got started because some people agreed cream on magic red sponge was better than h3. It's been a long time since I have gotten to chime in on a good dhs is overrated thread, thanks. I just got in a pile of h3n, but I still agree. Edited by cole_ely - 06/02/2019 at 5:02pm |
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Posted: 06/02/2019 at 6:33pm |
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That's right. Blame the equipment, not your inadequate technique.
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Posted: 06/02/2019 at 10:52pm |
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As usual, this really didn't require a thread. |
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Also noted h3 national, which could have been anything.
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bard romance
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pingpungpeng has a weird habit of using obvious clickbait titles to get people to click into his threads which are then, usually, ramblings that are neither enlightening nor thought provoking to the forum as a whole. Why not make your title "Unboosted H3 is terrible", which everybody knows?
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If you don't like the thread, then don't reply to it. If no one replies it will fall to the bottom of the list in a few days and then to page 2, 3, and so on. By responding, you just bumped it back to the top. lol
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bard romance
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I know how the forum works and that is fine. The idea is that perhaps these repeated threads could stop or be turned into something more conducive to discussion or knowledge sharing.
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So, start up a thread about something that interests you.
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pingpungpeng
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Posted: 06/03/2019 at 8:31am |
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Posted: 06/03/2019 at 9:29am |
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These threads are useful for people like me, who keep buying H3 every few years trying to figure out why it is used and loved by so many and continually come away amazed at how bad of a rubber it is.
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bard romance
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So then I’d ask again why not make the title “Unboosted H3 is terrible” which is pretty common knowledge?
Anyways, on topic, it has been discussed pretty ad nauseum that hard Chinese rubbers, boosted or unboosted, suit only a very specific subset of players (style, physical ability, and playing level wise) - and most people on this forum do not match that description. Maybe some really want to try to make it work because it is the choice rubber of their favorite player, or some other reason. But when it does not work it is better to realize that the fault lies not in the rubber but the hand holding the paddle.
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There are some different kinds of DHS Hurricane 3, only one is okay playing without booster, the others are not. Yeap, I am talking about original H3. By using "the other" H3, you must use plenty booster and then...get another one because it will be bubbled quickly. |
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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Horses for courses really. Which makes TT so diverse. What one player can use to a good level the other will hate becuase it's such a personel thing. |
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pingpungpeng
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I'm not saying unboosted h3 is terrible compared to tenergy or to bluefire or to rhyzer or to evolution.
I'm saying it's terrible compared to similar chinese rubbers. sanwei, 729, yinhe... they all offer better products. THIS...............................................................MIGHT BE NEWS TO SOME..........................................SO IT MIGHT........................................DESERVE A NEW THREAD.  |
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when I made this racket during the weekend I put the national h3 white package on one side. on the other side I put h3 neo blue sponge provincial. they both sucked equally bad. so my conclusion is just that h3 sucks in general. for comparison, I also have another racket with a sanwei t88-I and a sanwei target provincial. also chinese rubbers in the same segment. that racket plays much better.
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players totally unsuitable to play H3, they pick up a commercial version and finds out it is not for them. wastes a few$ - it is not the end of the world
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bard romance
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Posted: 06/03/2019 at 11:07am |
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If you are interested in posting video of you using the racket, we may be able to get to the bottom of why you say it “sucks”. Or you could try boosting it and see what happens.
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again, I'm saying it sucks compared to it's competition from similar companies like sanwei, palio, 729, haifu, yinhe.... and many more. my technique has nothing to do. I'm just comparing products. I played tt for more than 10 years. had my time of h3 boosting. yeah, it was aight. right now I don't play so often, maybe once a week casually, so no point in going thought the jOb of boosting. also I'm trying to play with really slow equipment. so boosting is not a good idea.
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you are entitled to your own opinion. just know that anyone who thinks H3 prov blue is inferior to T-88 is in my opinion, either a beginner, a troll, delusional, or simply not credible.
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and what makes your opinion more credible than mine?
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Hozuki has given evidence of his playing level and I believe plays IN Germany where there is a systematic rating of playing strength. He has his opinions that I disagree with but I can place them.in the context of his experiences. You however are all over the place in a way that makes no sense. It is often dealing with posters like you that led me to post less at mytt. Dunning Kruger syndrome run amok.
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It is a shame that the current crop of most active posters are a bunch of bbkon juniors.
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Dunning Kruger syndrome.... I had to look that up NL !
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if you're whole point is compared to other chinese rubbers then why did you say your only other rubber was T05?
also some chinese rubbers are euro style which you will percive as better if you only like T05. also IF.... IT.... Deserves another thread for this then maybe you should say unbooster standard H3 is worse than other chinese rubbers. Which again doesn't because everyone knows that. There is a consensus of TRUE chinese style rubbers then the best seems to be Battle 2 or H3 NEO Blue If you want a non traditional chinese rubber like Moon Speed or Focus Snipe 3 then its like comparing T05 FX to MX-S. Different type of rubber
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My opinion is just as credible as others find it to be. Thus being reasonable usually helps in that regard. I play at 1350 ttr which I think is around 1850 usatt. While that isn't exactly pro level, I have plenty of good players in the clubs I frequent to talk to (up to 2000 ttr). Also I have used, and exclusively so, many different chinese rubbers on my FH for an extended amount of time, including those you have mentioned. I personally am not interested in your credentials, as I usually just judge by logic instead, but others might not think so. So if you want to be controversial, prepare some credentials and good arguments. NextLevel, it's nice to have reasonable people posting here once in a while. Even if it's hard, someone has to cut through the bs.
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"My opinion is just as credible as others find it to be. Thus being reasonable usually helps in that regard. I play at 1350 ttr which I think is around 1850 usatt. While that isn't exactly pro level, I have plenty of good players in the clubs I frequent to talk to (up to 2000 ttr). Also I have used, and exclusively so, many different chinese rubbers on my FH for an extended amount of time, including those you have mentioned. I personally am not interested in your credentials, as I usually just judge by logic instead, but others might not think so. So if you want to be controversial, prepare some credentials and good arguments."
this is easier to swallow than some other views
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I usually estimate myself around "2200 USATT-OFFICIAL-RATING"............. ......... .......
yoz sayeing
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Really? Bitterness can make you sick
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