hardrubber rubber for a hardbat

This is a list of rubbers to use on a Hardbat Blade :

  Leyland (Hock rubber)
      Andro Classic
      Butterfly Orthodox
      Dunlop Barna Original
      RITC "Dr Evil"
      Hallmark MagicPips
      Alphatool ATP Reisman
      TSP Millitall
      Yasaka A12
      Yasaka Cobolt

----- Of all these anyone have any idea if they are really different than each other? In the amount of spin or control?

Scott gordon has said that they were looking to do away with that short list and go back to the old specs.

I like Yasaka Cobalt, used the X1 and X2 versions.  Are you selling the Alpha version at your site?  I've heard that's faster and spinnier.

You didn't answer the question.  Is it the Alpha @ version (white package with red) or the X1 or X2 version (blue package)? 

Thanks, I think you're the only one selling it in the U.S. I'll be in touch when I need some replacement sheets. 

I don't think there's anything spinnier for hardbat than NP8.

I prefer Cobalt as I'm more a flat hitter than a spinner.

-- Andrew

799 is also a nice hardbat rubber. It has a softer feel than 802 which some liked. I could generate a little more spin with NP8 due to the wider pips.

-- Andrew

NP8, 802, and 799 are not legal for hardbat. After talking to some of the equipment comittee members it is not likely that they will be approved any time soon.

hardbat was created as a separate game. if you say progress then you are changing the game. if leyland rubber was still manufactured today that would be it!!! no other rubbers allowed. the argument is if you want progress then play sponge. i sell hardbat equipment especially blades which i manufacture. i have gotten recently in an argument (misunderstanding on his part) with an old timer who thought i was arguing for change on yahoo hardbat newsgroup. my argument was control pip size and diameter, leave rubber alone.  The whole reason for the rubber list is  to come up with rubber that plays very close to leyland. well you can guess the rest of the argument. i kind of agree that if you allow "progress" in hardbat then it will eventually evolve into a different game from what it is today. don't be so rubber conscious and enjoy the sport.

I agree. However, rubber manufacturers keep changing the rubber by "improving " it and discontinuing others. This causes the list to be changed in order to make rubber available that plays closest to the older rubbers. Some people get disgusted and quit, however, I bet a friend who swore he would never try hardbat that he would like it (at the 2007 US Open) and he did. So much so he bought four rackets from me, two for him and two for his wife.

Alberto

Francis wrote: gnopgnipster wrote: NP8, 802, and 799 are not legal for hardbat. Yes in hardbat play, but you can use them against sponge bats, and have another hardbat with legal rubbers for hardbat events. In Europe, there are two ways for hardbat events : the "american" way, that uses the USTTA HB Commitee rubber list (like in Cervia, Italy), and the "french and german" way, that authorizes all pips out rubbers except those considered as long pips, like in the old american HB rules.

I've used Dr Evil on my BH against sponge players. I can play well up to a certain level, its hard to defend against >1800 loopers and try to keep the ball on the table. So, on my BH, its 563 w/1.5 sponge.

I was told that Dr Evil is actually illegal to use in a straight hard bat tournament... you can use it in a sponge event as a hard bat player however.

jt99sf wrote:   **I was told that Dr Evil is actually illegal to use in a straight hard bat tournament... you can use it in a sponge event as a hard bat player however.  **     The person that gave you this info is mis-informed. I played in the Nationals in Vegas '06 with Dr Evil.   ALL legal Hardbat setups are legal in sponge play including having the same color on both sides.   JL

That's strange because I was told that from the head of the USATT hardbat committee.  I also did not know you could play a hard bat with the same color on both sides.

ALL legal hardbats have the same color exemption. It is legal for USATT tournament play. Marty didn't get away with anything.