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sidofmillenium
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Posted: 09/02/2009 at 1:03am |
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First of all, the name of an athlete is supposed to give out a msg that blade is meant for players with that style. But some of these have descriptions for a blocker/hitter. Second, how does Butterfly expect to make a sale when they release 6 new-line Butterfly expensive blades??? Third, Butterfly has started lying...it claims some blades as spinniest in the world...but its clear they aren't. |
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bull_harrier
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Butterfly has started lying, where have you been this has been going on for quite some time now. If you pay attention you'll see that every company is going to say that their products will produce the most speed and spin and give you your bang for you buck. Butterfly is just the best at doing it and pumps out the most product, this is not new news.
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729 FX
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Old & stale news, indeed.
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sidofmillenium
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I know that...but even for their own self...in what realm did they think producing so much at the same time will create profit?(I posted it again...b/c they havn't stopped releasing their expensive blades...y do they create so many varities...and confuse ppl...this is the reason I dont buy Butterfly...I always feel I might make the wrong choice...even for themselves...I think Tenergy is the only thing going for them...)
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729 FX
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What realm? Only the people at Butterfly knows.
For us, mere mortals, we buy as we pleases. If don't like Butterfly, there are others : Yasaka, Xiom, TSP, Tibhar, Stiga, Nittaku, Joola, Galaxy, DHS, Champion, Andro, 729 etc.
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bull_harrier
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It's called the corporate business world, welcome; it's rather ugly at times. But as long as people keep buying their stuff why should they stop? They are making a killing and using their great marketing to do well, whether you agree with it or not. |
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Thylacine
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They probably read the forum and have decided to make some money on the expense of the local EJ & Boll fans. I wonder how come they haven't released Timo Boll defensive blade.
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Peter C
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Butterfly do produce a lot of products and are good at advertising.
They have also earnt a reputation for producing good quality rubbers and blades, over the last 40 years and that's why a lot of players are likely to check out their new products. |
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hungga
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It's like a common noun really BTY to pp/tt world. Even during my teen years where Nirvana and Manchester United Eric Cantona version made more sense than pp, I couldn't help but got caught by the praise given by my seniors about BTY product. As if it's a MUST for those who play pp, to at least try BTY's.
Then getting the saying their equipment weren't up to what's claimed, it sounds to me that the sayer is not on par with the level posed by the eqs. Yes of course marketing gimmick or trick is at work with every product of a company but BTY seems to g0t away with greater ratio of very satisfied customer. Am I satisfied with what I'm having? No, I want more and giving more is what BTY can do so well that they can sponsor a player with your money. |
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chris.b40
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not a fan of butterfly anyway
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beeray1
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Why WOULDNT they be producing new age blades left and right? Now is the time to be doing this. The glue ban impact has very much set in, and you see all kinds of players, pro and non pro looking for their new blade. the more blades they have, the more people will be looking to butterfly for their answer to the increased blade speed with feeling that they need. Butterfly=genius company.
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manyaku88
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i curently have 5 blades, 4 of them are Bty, 3 of them were not new.
i liked them because i found them of higher quality and way better handles than others, this is ofcourse subjective
Korbel SK7, KLHS, Jonyer, X5
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JKC
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The only product that butterfly has which is exceptional is Tenergy (though this is still way overpriced). The blades I have used are no better than other cheaper offerings and I wouldn't swap either of my T-4s for any of them.
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sidofmillenium
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Even Tenergy has terrible feeling.
Pretty sure after 2 years, we will find out all the Pro's use a diff. version of Tenergy 05.
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figgie
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Posting your subjective nonesense as fact? Here I will counter with T05 is a rubber. It is neither good or bad. The good or bad comes from the user (like you) which in your case is bad.
Pretty sure after two years some new rubber will be out.
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hungga
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JKC
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Only 50% cheaper? I can get 6 sheets of Wraith for a sheet of Tenergy if I buy Tenergy at catalogue prices in the UK.
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hungga
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I should put 'at least' then. Perhaps BTY successfully score the psychological point over us on overpricing. Something that costed too much will turn the buyer into its defender.
"We're BTY's guard dog now". |
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ZingyDNA
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More like 3 to 4 sheets here in the US. Is the Wraith cheaper or the Tenergy more expensive in the UK? |
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JKC
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I can get Wraith for a really good price over here at the moment and one catalogue has Tenergy at �47 I think. That is just silly.
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ppmax
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One thing that makes Butterfly successful is charts like this:
http://butterflyonline.com/shake_pen_racket_specs.asp?ID=135&racktype=shakehand It gives people points of reference. Accurate or not is a different issue, but it gives people ideas for EJing. "Hmm, I want a medium feeling, OFF, not-thicker-than-6mm blade..." Whereas, Sword, who makes quality stuff, has a million different blades with the description "Loop/Attack". |
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729 FX
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Yes, Butterfly makes a lot of research and produced chart for the public to see.
ppmax is right in saying that it gives people points of reference, unlike other brands which generalised their findings. (Whether the data/information is accurate or not is another matter.)
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bbkon
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the catalog said that joo plays with 2 tenergy sheet, they lie,lie,lie, the blades are too expensive like coated in gold
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Beer Belly
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Dont read product description. Read reviews instead. Problem solved. :)
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pingpongrob
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mizutani_jun
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+1 if the beginner who can`t use TBS make review,sure they`ll say it suck. high throw,stiff,ball can`t landing on table etc. there`s no way butterfly blundered. some of butterfly blades like TBS,Maze,Korbel,Primorac still used by many players.almost 90% players at my club are using butterfly. |
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yogi_bear
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+1 figgie, its his skills that are lacking not Tenergy 05 |
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bbkon
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but its still a scam
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liXiao
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call it a scam all you want but few companies blades can compare to butterfly. prove me wrong.
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nicefrog
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That's true, it's pretty much impossible to buy a bad Butterfly blade, they may or may not be the best blades and they may or may not be worth the money but 90% of other companies have bad blades in their line up. But you can still buy something simple and fairly cheap from Butterfly like a Firehand and go all the ay to number 1 in the world if you are good enough :), the blade is up for it
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